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Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Post by NBJack »

omnimus wrote: post #99
yurishimo wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you live outside of the US in which nobody gives a damn and they all use WhatsApp. After moving, I only get sms messages from the doctors office and my friends back in America.

Not true at all. This effect is pretty common in countries outside of US. It makes sense. WhatsApp is just another messaging app thats popular depending on a local whim. Where as iMessages get sent automatically between iOS users.

Outside the US, and a handful of other countries, Android is far more dominant than iOS (75% vs 25%). [1]

WhatsApp has an estimated active userbase of approximately 3 billion. [2] The number of iMessage users is estimated to be about 1 billion. [3]

[1] https://explodingtopics.com/blog/iphone-android-users#iphone...

[2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1306022/whatsapp-global-...

[3] https://usesignhouse.com/blog/imessage-stats/#:~:text=iMessa...

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

Yeul wrote: post #95
cbdumas wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm just a tech philistine but I find my Pixel 8a and my wife's iPhone to be basically indistinguishable in any meaningful way.

I play videogames and I can tell the difference between 60 and 120herz screen. Always amused me that a so called premium device had worse hardware than a flagship killer. Apple apparently finally caught up with their latest phone?

High refresh on its own is not enough to constitute a better screen. While Apple could certainly stand to bump the minimum refresh rate to 120hz across the board, I wouldn’t want that to come at the expense of the other more important specs as has been common outside of the Apple sphere, particularly on budget devices. If one has to choose, a color accurate screen is preferable to a fast but less accurate one in most circumstances for instance.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Post by sho_hn »

Yeul wrote: post #95
cbdumas wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm just a tech philistine but I find my Pixel 8a and my wife's iPhone to be basically indistinguishable in any meaningful way.

I play videogames and I can tell the difference between 60 and 120herz screen. Always amused me that a so called premium device had worse hardware than a flagship killer. Apple apparently finally caught up with their latest phone?

Almost anyone can tell the difference between 60 and 120 Hz.

Seriously, if you haven't upgraded your desktop PC to a higher refresh rate screen yet: It's the biggest "feels like a new computer!" upgrade since we swapped HDDs for SSDs and the days when your new CPU was 2.5x as fast as the old one. There is no turning back after having experienced the buttery smoothness, and the impact is IMHO higher during regular usage than during games.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Post by baby_souffle »

overfeed wrote: post #98
nvllsvm wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I - a Pixel 7 (GrapheneOS) user - would hate that, doing so would essentially put Android on equal footing as iOS and would give me a serious reason to consider switching to an iPhone. Apple's hardware is just so much sleeker, faster, and better than Google's mediocre Pixel line.

Parity will only be achieved for me when the iPhone supports FDroid, and allows the replacement of default apps with apps of my choosing.

I'm in a similar spot. There are a few pixel exclusive features that I would certainly miss but I spent a few decades not having a personal assistant robot screen my calls and texts, I can survive without it in the future.

Tasker used to be in a class of its own but I believe shortcuts is now as powerful and it even has a user experience that isn't hostile! That might be a net benefit...

I hate the iOS keyboard and method of text selection but I could adopt.

I'll have to re buy some apps or find alternatives but that's not an impossible hill to climb.

The biggest pain points are file management and notifications. Having spent a decade plus on a blackberry before going Android full-time, neither dominant platform is even close to good with respect to notifications but Android is far less crappy than iOS.

File management is probably a deal breaker. Every time I have to download a file on my iPad and try to use it in another app or even just get it off the damn thing, I spend 5 minutes swearing before I just give up and attach the file to an email and then go to a PC to pull the file out of the draft folder...

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Post by 31337Logic »

omnimus wrote: post #99
yurishimo wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you live outside of the US in which nobody gives a damn and they all use WhatsApp. After moving, I only get sms messages from the doctors office and my friends back in America.

Not true at all. This effect is pretty common in countries outside of US. It makes sense. WhatsApp is just another messaging app thats popular depending on a local whim. Where as iMessages get sent automatically between iOS users.

Y'all bitches gotta get on Signal. ;-)

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Post by singpolyma3 »

overfeed wrote: post #98
nvllsvm wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I - a Pixel 7 (GrapheneOS) user - would hate that, doing so would essentially put Android on equal footing as iOS and would give me a serious reason to consider switching to an iPhone. Apple's hardware is just so much sleeker, faster, and better than Google's mediocre Pixel line.

Parity will only be achieved for me when the iPhone supports FDroid, and allows the replacement of default apps with apps of my choosing.

And fixes their garbage autocorrect and notification UI

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Post by singularity2001 »

nvllsvm wrote: post #60
mainecoder wrote: post #14

I hope they make it closed source and make us much money out of it as possible for shareholders that is their job and their duty, why are they giving this away for free they have already captured market share by claiming opensource and building a community now all they have to do is make it proprietary and the old opensource version slowly wither and become unstable, then they can charge money for the operating syste…

As much as I - a Pixel 7 (GrapheneOS) user - would hate that, doing so would essentially put Android on equal footing as iOS and would give me a serious reason to consider switching to an iPhone. Apple's hardware is just so much sleeker, faster, and better than Google's mediocre Pixel line.

  Apple's hardware is just so much sleeker, faster, and better than Google's
On the other hand I was recently testing a friends pixel phone and was shocked by the speed and integration of Gemini.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Post by nukem222 »

ironman1478 wrote: post #6

This headline really is misleading. The source will still be released, it just means that the work leading up to a release will be in private. IMO, there's nothing wrong with that, since it's likely that a lot of the intermediate com mediates are likely just noise.

They don't publish the really interesting sources anyway, this doesn't really change anything.
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