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Claude can now search the web

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Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by Almondsetat »

tcdent wrote: post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

>looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer.

LLMs are truly reaching human-like behavior then

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by a4isms »

losteric wrote: post #83
1shooner wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You can now use Claude to search the internet to provide more up-to-date and relevant responses. It's a search engine. You 'ask it to read the web' just like you asked Google to, except Google used to actually give the website traffic. I appreciate the concept of an AI User-agent, but without a business model that pays for the content creation, this is just going to lead to the death of anonymously accessible conten…

What was the web like before wide spread internet ads, auth, and search engines? Did all those old sites have “business models”? What did the web feel like back then? (This is rhetorical - I had niche hobby sites back then, in the same way some people put out free zines, and wouldn’t give a damn about today’s AI agents so long as they were respectful. The web was better back then, and I believe AI slop and agents bri…

I recall a hotelier who advertised free WiFi at a time when everyone thought that monetizing WiFi was a hot new revenue stream.

"What," he was asked, "is the business model for free WiFi?"

"What," he retorted, "is the business model for free washrooms?"

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by underdeserver »

joshstrange wrote: post #110

Massive props to Anthropic for announcing a feature _and_ making it available for everyone right away. OpenAI is so annoying in this aspect. They will regularly give timelines for rollout that not met or simply wrong. Edit: "Everyone" = Everyone who pays. Sorry if this sounds mean but I don't care about what the free tier gets or when. As a paying user for both Anthropic and OpenAI I was just pointing out the rollout…

It's not available for everyone.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by mavamaarten »

tcdent wrote: post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

Oh yeah this is very much the case. Every time I ask ChatGPT something simple (thinking it'd be a perfect fit for an LLM, not for a google search) and it starts searching, I already know the "answer" is going to be garbage.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by Tostino »

nicce wrote: post #33
explain wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

robots.txt is meant for automated crawlers, not human-driven actions.

It must form the search index somehow. That is prior the human action. Simply it would not find the page at all if it respects.

Let's say you had a local model with the ability to do tool calls. You give that llm the ability to use a browser. The llm opens that browser, goes to Google or Bing, and does whatever searches it needs to do.

Why would that be an issue?

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by Tycho »

tcdent wrote: post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

It’s good if it hits on high quality sources like ons.gov.uk

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by bryan0 »

joshstrange wrote: post #110

Massive props to Anthropic for announcing a feature _and_ making it available for everyone right away. OpenAI is so annoying in this aspect. They will regularly give timelines for rollout that not met or simply wrong. Edit: "Everyone" = Everyone who pays. Sorry if this sounds mean but I don't care about what the free tier gets or when. As a paying user for both Anthropic and OpenAI I was just pointing out the rollout…

> Web search is available now in feature preview for all paid Claude users in the United States. Support for users on our free plan and more countries is coming soon.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by supriyo-biswas »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #61
supriyo-biswas wrote: post #35

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Huh? You can add Google-Extended[1] to opt out from Generative AI summaries. [1] https://blog.google/technology/ai/an-update-on-web-publisher...

Google will still scrape it for training data either way, this only impacts search results.

> Today we’re announcing Google-Extended, a new control that web publishers can use to manage whether their sites help *improve Bard and Vertex AI generative APIs*, including future generations of models that power those products.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by joshstrange »

underdeserver wrote: post #113
joshstrange wrote: post #110

Massive props to Anthropic for announcing a feature _and_ making it available for everyone right away. OpenAI is so annoying in this aspect. They will regularly give timelines for rollout that not met or simply wrong. Edit: "Everyone" = Everyone who pays. Sorry if this sounds mean but I don't care about what the free tier gets or when. As a paying user for both Anthropic and OpenAI I was just pointing out the rollout…

It's not available for everyone.

> Web search is available now in feature preview for all paid Claude users in the United States.

It is for all paid users, something OpenAI is slow on. I pay for both and I often forget to try OpenAI's new things because they roll out so slow. Sometimes it's same-day but they are all over the map in how long it takes to roll out.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by beeflet »

1shooner wrote: post #71
_2d30 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it should. If a user asks the AI to read the web for them, it should read the web for them. This isn't a vacuum charged with crawling the web, it's an adhoc GET request.

>You can now use Claude to search the internet to provide more up-to-date and relevant responses. It's a search engine. You 'ask it to read the web' just like you asked Google to, except Google used to actually give the website traffic. I appreciate the concept of an AI User-agent, but without a business model that pays for the content creation, this is just going to lead to the death of anonymously accessible conten…

IDK bittorrent is pretty effective at hosting bytes. I think if something like IPFS takes off in our generation there will be no need for advertising as an excuse for covering hosting costs in the client-server model.

As for funding "content creation" itself, you have patronage.

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