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Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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post #24

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Is there an Onion archive.today?

I would at the very least be hesitant to provide such a service, and I’ve gotta imagine that I’m far from alone :)

Why? It is the archivey bit that gets you in trouble, not the oniony bit.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#113

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It's always been a very bad newspaper internationally, we could mention the Irak war cover or the constant attacks of EU countries.

Or covering for Stalin and denying the famine in ukraine.

They really did that? I'm a bit surprised, for me the NYT is the definition of the atlantist newspaper, up to the absurd.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#114

Reddit still has an onion service but is defacto unusable

Kind of, it depends. In my experience so far, Reddit blocks Tor nodes about 20% of the times or so. More specifically, it seems to return a 429, probably because someone tried to abuse Reddit from the same node and Reddit banned the IP. In my experience, this is just as likely to happen with the onion site or the www address.

That being said, I only lurk so I don't know if there are any additional restrictions when trying to log in.

Is that the same issue you have or is it something else?

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#115
post #3

WhatsApp and Telegram are hardly replacements for Tor access. A government can block them easily. The onion service's days were numbered after they fired Runa Sandvik. I'm surprised it lasted this long. Looking at the pay and current labor disputes, it seems like the New York Times isn't a good place for a skilled software engineer to work these days. They'll keep running SecureDrop over an onion service, right...?

> WhatsApp and Telegram are hardly replacements for Tor access. A government can block them easily.

Also, you tell a private company information that you are reading the NYT and which articles you read. If the NYT is banned or a signal of suspicion where you live, that doesn't help.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#116
post #4

Journalists speak truth to power, meanwhile the NYT aligns itself with power at every opportunity. For example, they knew the NSA was spying on us but never ran the story to protect GW's chances at reelection. Presumably they didn't want to be seen as anti-establishment with the new powers and are reverting to their time-proven behavior. NYT will lick the boot when presented, same as ever.

> they knew the NSA was spying on us but never ran the story

They did run the story; they withheld it for awhile.

> to protect GW's chances at reelection

Is there evidence of that? I've never heard it and I promise that no Republican thinks the NY Times actively helping them.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#117

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The propaganda outlets have really been pushing hard the line that you can't trust professional journalists, and people who get their news from influencers just seem to accept it uncritically.

It’s not propaganda, Noam Chomsky wrote a book about how media is used to advance otherwise unpopular government policies decades ago and the NYT is mentioned in it. If anything this post is propaganda.

Why wouldn't they use social media to do the same? Why trust influencers but not professional media?

And then, where do you get information?

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#118

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Hey what is up with Biden’s rapid decline nowadays, anyway? I guess considering the rate he was apparently declining when it was a hot-button political issue, by now he must be a vegetable by now, right?

It wasn't a rapid decline. The media ignored it and covered it up but there were signs of serious cognitive decline even before he was elected.

The conclusion of the research linked earlier in the thread is that the NYT covered it too much.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#119
post #65

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But once he was out of the race and there was only one old guy, age ceased to become an issue. That's what makes what they're doing kind of insidious. They're not making things up - Biden is indeed old. It's how they weight things and how much they push them. There's a reason the "NYT Pitch Bot" account is so popular - it's poking fun at a real phenomenon.

Are you claiming that the NYT is biased in favor of Trump? That's so hard to take seriously that I don't even know what to say to that.

It is. Their editor in chief sanewashed trump out of spite because Biden would not take an interview with them.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/04/25/new-york-t...

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

#120
post #82

Despite the symbolism, does this change anything about their reachability from Tor? Is there any practical advantage to a website in being explicitly reachable as a hidden service on Tor, as opposed to simply not blocking exit node IPs?

I don't know if there's any benefit for the end user, but I think it helps with the reliability of the Tor network because onion sites are accessed by normal Tor nodes, not exit nodes[1]. This means that if you access the onion version of a site you're "relieving" the exit nodes from the extra traffic, which is good because exit nodes already have to handle a massive amount of traffic from all the requests to the surface web.

[1] https://community.torproject.org/onion-services/overview/

[1.5] http://xmrhfasfg5suueegrnc4gsgyi2tyclcy5oz7f5drnrodmdtob6t2i...

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