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The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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Post by ultimafan »

icu wrote: post #100
ultimafan wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the same way about Villeneuve's last few movies, I don't think it's that controversial, I've had some people agree before. He seems to be very good at visual, audio effects, 2049/Dune both looked and sounded absolutely great at parts. But the writing, dialogue and respect for the source material is absolutely subpar, Dune part 2 was especially laughable and bad enough that the first time I tried to watch it I…

I somewhat agree. For me Dune: Part One (2021) and Dune: Part Two (2024) had the visual, sound and acting talent, but felt like it was missing something. I'd almost say it was soulless. I think the problem was in the dialogue or how scenes we acted, I don't know. I didn't think Dune (1984) was any good, but I think that had a lot to do with the technology and film making techniques at that time. I think the only good…

Dune 1984 had a lot of faults, that's true. It's been ages since I've seen it so my memory is hazy on a lot of it. I do vividly recall the duel between Paul and Feyd at the end though, Sting absolutely knocked his performance out of the park. When I look back on that scene now it feels like a great example of cheesy lines delivered with absolute, unashamed sincerity.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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Post by sleepybrett »

the_af wrote: post #101
sleepybrett wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have yet to run into anyone that hasn't let out a bit of a sigh when sen gets on that train. I love the movie, I actually think Naussica is his best movie, followed by Princess. However as someone who grew up on western movies there is a rhythmic miss to these movies, a pacing that is unlike other movies. I never said it made the movies bad, just that it was, I guess strange... unexpected. .. and like I said, looki…

That's anecdotal at best. I haven't watched the movie with anyone (and I don't mean anime fans -- which I'm not one, by the way) who was bored or frustrated by the train scene. A screenshot of that scene is often featured in articles about the movie, so at least reviewers seem to like it. I think it's one of the most hauntingly beautiful passages, too. "The expected Western rythm" isn't something to be treasured at a…

So seem to be overreacting to my point and pretty defensive.

I'm not saying that the train scene is a miss, i've very specifically saying that it as at that point that i've seen people check the timeline and see a remaining timeline that 'feels' longer than it 'should' be as an example.

I'm not saying the western rhythm is the only thing that matters or that all other structures are inferior. I'm saying that these movies have a different structure, and that's honestly it. I've seen it throw people off, it throws me off, I don't want them to end, I don't throw away my copy of it but it's a bump in the road nonetheless.

I love these movies they are some of my favorite gifts to give to my young nieces. I give them as a gift on a holiday and we do a watch of them while my siblings and parents and whatnot inevitably watch sports. I think this easter it might be finally time for mononoke (the oldest is 16 and her sister is 11.. i think it might still be a little intense for the 11 year old).

I'm not sure that I would call myself an anime 'fan' but I have consumed, and continue to consume anime as part of my media diet. I don't watch every series that gets hyped by the anime community but I catch one here and there, sometimes they stick and sometimes they don't. (recent things I've enjoyed are DanDaDan, Delicious in Dungeon and the Ranma 1/2 remake.)

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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Post by the_af »

sleepybrett wrote: post #112
the_af wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's anecdotal at best. I haven't watched the movie with anyone (and I don't mean anime fans -- which I'm not one, by the way) who was bored or frustrated by the train scene. A screenshot of that scene is often featured in articles about the movie, so at least reviewers seem to like it. I think it's one of the most hauntingly beautiful passages, too. "The expected Western rythm" isn't something to be treasured at a…

So seem to be overreacting to my point and pretty defensive. I'm not saying that the train scene is a miss, i've very specifically saying that it as at that point that i've seen people check the timeline and see a remaining timeline that 'feels' longer than it 'should' be as an example. I'm not saying the western rhythm is the only thing that matters or that all other structures are inferior. I'm saying that these mo…

I'm not overreacting, and why would I be defensive? I'm not Miyazaki, it's not my work to defend.

We agree the pacing and some of the structure is mildly different to some Western cinema (but not too much, there's nothing radically different either, which is why Disney/Pixar found Ghibli so inspiring).

I guess what's puzzling is your wording: you say the rythm is different (arguably true), that you wouldn't cut anything (agreed) but also call it a "rythmic miss".

What you claim about the train scene is both confusing and feels anecdotal -- I've never seen people do what you claim. The scene is there, it works, and it's beautiful and I've never seen anybody check the time at this point.

That's all I say: it's not a "rythmic miss" and it seems presumptuous to claim otherwise.

We do not disagree on anything else, really.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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Post by lsllc »

ReptileMan wrote: post #16
techterrier wrote: post #14

Given it was so obvious that the team had bottled lightening with this creation, it stands as a monument to the failure of bean counter driven programming. Surely any creative person looking at the quality of this work would have kept this team in the groove. It's not like they didnt have the money. They could easily have made the cash back on some reality thing that cost nothing but made bank.

I mean they had to finance rebel moon, the idol and the electric state. This is what I also hate about the gaming industry. If you have a team that works good - find something to do for them. The guys behind Prince of Peria lost crown were brilliant in every aspect. And Ubisoft disbanded them instead of giving them time to get their footing. But we have a bloated AC:Shadows crap coming our way.

I thought the Rebel Moon duology was a little so-so ... until I watched the directors cut(s). F-ing fantastic. If you haven't seen them go watch it -- so so so much better than the original release(s), different movies really, they even have different names: Chapter One: Chalice of Blood and Chapter Two: Curse of Forgiveness.

Really good stuff IMHO, I suspect it was the movie(s) Snyder actually set out to make.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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Post by lsllc »

icu wrote: post #33
beloch wrote: post #17

This was a brilliant show, but it had the misfortune to come along at a time when Netflix was cancelling even moderate successes after one season and slashing the budget of hit shows for their second season before cancelling them too (e.g. Altered Carbon). Only very rarely does a show turn into the kind of pop culture sensation that seems to make the bean-counters want to go past two seasons (e.g. Stranger Things), u…

Yeah I was upset at Altered Carbon being cancelled. It was very good. I've been hoping a video game studio picks up the rights and makes a good AA or AAA game. I sadly didn't find Altered Carbon: Resleeved as good as the main series.

Loved the books, 1st series was great, not so much for the second.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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Post by OisinMoran »

donatj wrote: post #26
OisinMoran wrote: post #18

Hard disagree with a lot said here. Watched both the film and this series (though haven't got around to finishing it yet) for the first time last year, and the series lacks a lot of what makes the film great. The film has some interesting zen-like qualities like duality, and a more complex set of morals. The series just feels like most modern creations with a pretty bland right vs wrong. The film is also almost entir…

If you have not seen "Princess Mononoke", I highly recommend it. I rewatched it recently and the people and creatures on both sides of the conflict are neither really good nor evil. Just two opposing forces with different goals. It offers a level of subtlety I have not seen often in film, particularly since Star Wars.

Yes, I have—it's excellent! I'm a massive Mononoke fan (and Ghibli in general, though I've still got a few I haven't seen)

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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Post by icu »

ultimafan wrote: post #111
icu wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I somewhat agree. For me Dune: Part One (2021) and Dune: Part Two (2024) had the visual, sound and acting talent, but felt like it was missing something. I'd almost say it was soulless. I think the problem was in the dialogue or how scenes we acted, I don't know. I didn't think Dune (1984) was any good, but I think that had a lot to do with the technology and film making techniques at that time. I think the only good…

Dune 1984 had a lot of faults, that's true. It's been ages since I've seen it so my memory is hazy on a lot of it. I do vividly recall the duel between Paul and Feyd at the end though, Sting absolutely knocked his performance out of the park. When I look back on that scene now it feels like a great example of cheesy lines delivered with absolute, unashamed sincerity.

Yeah I agree, Sting's acting was on point.

Re: The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Is a Stone-Cold Masterpiece

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Post by sleepybrett »

the_af wrote: post #108
sleepybrett wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have yet to run into anyone that hasn't let out a bit of a sigh when sen gets on that train. I love the movie, I actually think Naussica is his best movie, followed by Princess. However as someone who grew up on western movies there is a rhythmic miss to these movies, a pacing that is unlike other movies. I never said it made the movies bad, just that it was, I guess strange... unexpected. .. and like I said, looki…

Addendum: I've upvoted you because I don't think anyone should be downvoted just for expressing an opinion about art, as long as they do it politely. Also, > I actually think Naussica is his best movie I don't agree but I love Nausicaa's visuals. They are also hauntingly beautiful. I owe it to myself to get the manga, too.

I picked this up a bunch of years back (https://a.co/d/9jAfNMx), it's a pretty nice edition.
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