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Please Commit More Blatant Academic Fraud (2021)

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Re: Please Commit More Blatant Academic Fraud (2021)

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Post by genewitch »

burntsushi wrote: post #110
genewitch wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, that's perfectly valid for arguing with your friend about which one to deploy on our server, all things equal. I do this sort of thing to see what tools are faster all the time. ripgrep, ag(silver searcher), grep, MongoDB was one we were arguing about for a while recently.

Which one won? :) (I'm the author of ripgrep.)

ripgrep, except against the full 160GB dataset, mongoDB was faster on my ryzen.

I have a lot of subtitles. I'm partially hard of hearing and partially i can't stand the way everything is mastered, so i use volume normalization (sometimes called "night mode", vizio calls it this) and subtitles to make up for the fact that the audio tracks in most things is bad.

Well a side effect of subtitles is now i have context for every video that i can search. grep was grep.

you didn't think i'd leave you hanging https://i.imgur.com/Vs5AAT7.png

some other non-statistics from that day: 15GB sorted password list, newline delimited, UTF-8 from spinningrust drive 64 seconds (~234MB/s) to make a copy of the file. ag and rg took 3.2 seconds to search the copy. I'm actually hesitant to state that grep took 52 seconds...

Thanks for replying, thanks for making me remember the great conversations we had around those topics a couple months ago, and thanks for creating ripgrep, it's my go-to for anything non-trivial!

Re: Please Commit More Blatant Academic Fraud (2021)

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Post by genewitch »

genewitch wrote: post #105
proto-n wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still disagree. It's more like "omg I should have published at least a few papers by now, what am I doing" and then you start frantically looking for provable things in the dataset. You find one that you can also support with a nice story. Now either a) You were not tought about how or why this is wrong and you publish the paper b) You were, and know that you should collect a separate dataset to test the hypothesis…

Maybe I'm misreading but you both seem to say the same thing. New student is shown how to read a paper, how to spot egregious errors and all the things listed above. Student, i guess feels forced to publish. And maybe uses murkier tactics to get the paper published. As Dr Frank Etscorn said, "I can show anything correlates to anything else." We were discussing vitamin D papers anf I was testing that paper funding AI…

Jeez, i apologize. "testing that 'paper-finding' AI mentioned"

Re: Please Commit More Blatant Academic Fraud (2021)

#113

Post by archi42 »

autoexec wrote: post #101
araes wrote: post #87

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That's actually the part about people constantly negging on social sciences [1] that I often find confusing. There's huge amounts of data available (geography, lots and lots of maps; history, huge amount of historical documentation; economics, vast amounts of public datasets produced every month by most governments; political science, censuses, voting records, driver registrations, political contest results all over…

People who hate "social science" are surely targeting too wide, but there's plenty of terrible research hiding under that umbrella that relies exclusively on social media/internet surveys/self-reported data and absolutely deserves criticism.

Since I expressed negative feelings, my thoughts on this:

I wouldn't say I hate social science, that's much too strong. The rampant fraud and poor method in several of the fields just means that I put less value in peoples' academic achievements than they deserve - which I don't like, because many surely sincerely tried to do good science and spent years on getting there, but I can't filter a priori in which camp a person belongs. They should not be defunded or stuff like that, but they need to get their act together. Somehow. I suspect a lot of this is driven by extrinsics (publish or perish; need an advanced degree to get a job, but the advanced degree is actually pointless for the job; probably more things I don't think of now), and those need to change to allow for good science.

Take for example the department I mentioned above, that's essentially commiting fraud. Word is, the professor running it is actually pretty damn good at what they do. They have an accepted grant application framed on the wall: "I need 2000 bucks. Signed Professor Foobar" (like 5000$ in today's money); times surely changed for the worse for them. And I pity that, since we're often (but not always of course) talking peanuts in many of those fields. Especially for Masters level research, or for a single paper.

But I judge people in my life by their competence and character anyway, not by their degree. So politely ignoring their degree has little to no adverse effect on how I interact with them.

Re: Please Commit More Blatant Academic Fraud (2021)

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Post by burntsushi »

genewitch wrote: post #111
burntsushi wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which one won? :) (I'm the author of ripgrep.)

ripgrep, except against the full 160GB dataset, mongoDB was faster on my ryzen. I have a lot of subtitles. I'm partially hard of hearing and partially i can't stand the way everything is mastered, so i use volume normalization (sometimes called "night mode", vizio calls it this) and subtitles to make up for the fact that the audio tracks in most things is bad. Well a side effect of subtitles is now i have context for…

Love it! That's awesome. Thank you for replying. :-)

I've occasionally wanted to put the subtitles from all of my Simpson episodes into an easily searchable format. What do you use to extract subtitles?

Re: Please Commit More Blatant Academic Fraud (2021)

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Post by BoingBoomTschak »

cgcrob wrote: post #12
GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #7

I am a co-author on a paper I never asked for, but my supervisor insisted, because the petty idea upgrading his desperate try to the point of "considerable at all" came from me. It was a chair which normally prouded itself of only publishing in the most highly regarded journals of its field (internally graded A, B, C). They had a few years without viable paper. Desperate to publish. From my POV this was a D. The pape…

If it’s any consolation I split up with an ex partner after she wanted to put me as a co-author on a pseudoscience bullshit paper that she was working on to try and hit her quota. Her entire field, in the social sciences, is inventing a wild idea and using meta analysis to give it credibility. Then flying to conferences and submitting expenses. I contributed nothing other than a statistical framework which was discar…

I'm not a fan of flaming, but I have to get it out: where are the people screaming "THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!" in any thread involving politically-relevant science? How can they read stuff like this constantly posted on HN then just trust sociology/psychology du jour to tell them what to think (or more likely, to help them justify what was already in their head)? Is Gell-Mann amnesia that potent?

Re: Please Commit More Blatant Academic Fraud (2021)

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Post by genewitch »

burntsushi wrote: post #114
genewitch wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ripgrep, except against the full 160GB dataset, mongoDB was faster on my ryzen. I have a lot of subtitles. I'm partially hard of hearing and partially i can't stand the way everything is mastered, so i use volume normalization (sometimes called "night mode", vizio calls it this) and subtitles to make up for the fact that the audio tracks in most things is bad. Well a side effect of subtitles is now i have context for…

Love it! That's awesome. Thank you for replying. :-) I've occasionally wanted to put the subtitles from all of my Simpson episodes into an easily searchable format. What do you use to extract subtitles?

Oh i've never extracted, i use openai-whisper for long content and whisper-diarization for shorter content (https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/ExtractSubtitles with a note that probably should be used with `-c copy` to ensure a 1:1 copy of the subtitles.

also when i get stuff from a website with yt-dlp for archival i use

```pwsh

$userInput = Read-Host -Prompt '480 video download script enter URL'

Write-Output "URL:`t`t$userInput"

yt-dlp.exe `

-f 'bestvideo[height--write-auto-subs --write-subs `

--fragment-retries infinite `

$userInput

```

Re: Please Commit More Blatant Academic Fraud (2021)

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Post by genewitch »

burntsushi wrote: post #114
genewitch wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ripgrep, except against the full 160GB dataset, mongoDB was faster on my ryzen. I have a lot of subtitles. I'm partially hard of hearing and partially i can't stand the way everything is mastered, so i use volume normalization (sometimes called "night mode", vizio calls it this) and subtitles to make up for the fact that the audio tracks in most things is bad. Well a side effect of subtitles is now i have context for…

Love it! That's awesome. Thank you for replying. :-) I've occasionally wanted to put the subtitles from all of my Simpson episodes into an easily searchable format. What do you use to extract subtitles?

I should note it sounds like i am a pirate, but when i rip a DVD i use handbrake to "Burn In" the subtitles straight to the video - since i originally cared about this because of my hearing. This "hey having all these as .vtt/.srt/.ass means i can search my recollection of this media!" came much (much, 20 years) later.

I burn in the subtitles because "streaming media players" nearly universally are awful at handing anything except 100% perfect subtitles - and that's if they bother handling them at all, over the last 20 years. Also my best friend was dating a deaf person, so the impetus for burning in for streaming was because we'd watch movies together in my living room on a rear projection TV via wifi streaming from a WHS "plex-like" server in my room. The device was a western digital something TV.

Re: Please Commit More Blatant Academic Fraud (2021)

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Post by burntsushi »

genewitch wrote: post #116
burntsushi wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Love it! That's awesome. Thank you for replying. :-) I've occasionally wanted to put the subtitles from all of my Simpson episodes into an easily searchable format. What do you use to extract subtitles?

Oh i've never extracted, i use openai-whisper for long content and whisper-diarization for shorter content ( https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/ExtractSubtitles with a note that probably should be used with `-c copy` to ensure a 1:1 copy of the subtitles. also when i get stuff from a website with yt-dlp for archival i use ```pwsh $userInput = Read-Host -Prompt '480 video download script enter URL' Write-Output "URL:`t`t$us…

Interesting, thanks!

Re: Please Commit More Blatant Academic Fraud (2021)

#119

Post by burntsushi »

genewitch wrote: post #117
burntsushi wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Love it! That's awesome. Thank you for replying. :-) I've occasionally wanted to put the subtitles from all of my Simpson episodes into an easily searchable format. What do you use to extract subtitles?

I should note it sounds like i am a pirate, but when i rip a DVD i use handbrake to "Burn In" the subtitles straight to the video - since i originally cared about this because of my hearing. This "hey having all these as .vtt/.srt/.ass means i can search my recollection of this media!" came much (much, 20 years) later. I burn in the subtitles because "streaming media players" nearly universally are awful at handing a…

Yeah I've been ripping movies and TV shows off of discs since the early Netflix days. I'd get 3 DVDs in the mail, rip them with HandBrake and then send them back the next day. Rinse and repeat.

I also own the first 20 seasons of the Simpsons on DVD. I'd own more but they stopped making them. Despite starting it decades ago, they took so long that the DVD (and disk format in general) has become obsolescent for the most part. But I've ripped all 20 seasons on to my network, including the commentary tracks, which I absolutely love.

I don't burn subtitles in though. I've never had a problem using them with vlc (since the early aughts) and then mpv (as of maybe 10 years ago). I don't use anything fancy though for viewing. I just have a handful of Intel NUCs running Archlinux hooked up to each TV in the house. I skipped all the Plex bullshit.

Re: Please Commit More Blatant Academic Fraud (2021)

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Post by 2cynykyl »

ein0p wrote: post #8

What's funny is that if you're well-read in your field, all such bullshit is plainly apparent. You know what the good baseline is, for example, and you know why the author didn't choose it. You know the deficiencies of the benchmarks and see how they were exploited to juice the results. You know their approach is infeasible IRL and can clearly articulate why. Etc, etc. You folks aren't fooling anyone but fools. It's…

This is a very important comment. And to flip the perspective, name recognition in our given fields is not just a vanity metric for getting more funding. It is earned by publishing quality work. I can trust people I know who do things correctly.
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