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I may be wrong, but it might be time now not to do so.
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Whoa... hold on there cowboy! You are waaaay too mature to be allowed participation in contemporary political debates. ;)
"Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies" – Executive Order
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#112We have a government that has been completely capture by the elite. Democrats are the oligarchs good cops offering performative resistance while ultimately consenting to anything that boosts their brokerage accounts and re-election budgets, while republicans are the oligarchs bad cops, directly weakening regulation of those with power, protections for those without, and systematically destroying any force that can st…
I still don't buy the bothsidesism. You say at first they are part of the coup, quietly approving of what is happening, then pointing out the commentary by state AGs that this is a a power grab. We agree this is a catastrophe, but I don't think that media and the liberal political parties are willful codefendants.
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I enjoy discussing politics, but flagged this because the title is so absurdly far beyond sensationalized and links to a friggin Reddit post which then amps the hyperbole up even further. It's not going to be conducive to interesting or informative discussion for anybody, and seems mostly intended to mislead.
Donald has direct control of entire Federal Gov, controls their budgets, has installed his men in every agency, and will now decide interpretation of law. Congress and Senate both wholly passive (subverted, I would say). That leaves the States and the courts. I think the courts will go next.
So like it is all the time, just this time it's a guy you don't like
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#115So disappointed by the irrational and hyperbolic comments from my fellow nerds. Why are folks reading into this so much!? Clearly folks aren’t actually reading the content and just reacting based on a headline. Read, contemplate, compose. This really shouldn’t be an inflammatory exec order - from what I can tell this is precisely within the purview of a POTUS and precisely in line with historical exec orders. Why the…
What's your personal threshold for gatekeeping when people are supposed to call it fascist?
Have you done your nerd research on how Nazis dismantled the democratic state? If so, at what step would you have gatekept calling it fascist?
Blanket calling worried people as "juvenile" as a dismissal is in itself pretty fucking juvenile, hope you can see that.
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Is it" hysterical" to point out this section of the EO? > The President and the Attorney General, subject to the President’s supervision and control, shall provide authoritative interpretations of law for the executive branch. The President and the Attorney General’s opinions on questions of law are controlling on all employees in the conduct of their official duties. Because, to put it in plain words, this is orderi…
How is that related to a dictatorship though? The executive comes under the control of its democratically elected head, which is pretty normal and not considered a dictatorship.
Forget the police, I thought the US president actually has much more direct and undisputed power over the military than some other executive agencies, which could be much more dangerous in the wrong hands, yet that is still is not considered a dictatorship (e.g., not even when Obama ordered the extrajudicial execution of a US citizen and was protected by presidential immunity, nor when past presidents have launched undeclared wars of aggression or interventions and bombing campaigns against sovereign nations), at least not in mainstream political thinking.
This EO seems like just shuffling responsibility around within the executive, moving interpretation of laws directly under the president rather than delegating it out to various unelected bureaucrats in different agencies making their own interpretations. I'm sure there are argument for and against it but it doesn't seem outlandish, or an kind of crazy power grab beyond what the executive branch already has.
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I think everything has to be voluntary and well-informed, except in self-defence. I may be wrong, but I think in the US enough voters have been deceived by Donald that they were not well-informed, and so elections are no longer valid. By this, he is in power, and Congress and Senate have been subverted. I also see Donald looking to have complete and untrammeled control, and this is one more act in that direction.
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#118From a person who watched a single man taking over a whole country over, US is going down the same path.
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#119>A White House Liaison is to be installed in every independent regulatory agency to enforce direct presidential control Wow. Literally installing political officers in agencies.
Political commissars
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#120This is obviously alarming, and if used to disregard the Judiciary's interpretation of law, unconstitutional. But I'm puzzled by the exemption of the Federal Reserve and FOMC. He's previously beefed with them, and would presumably find the additional leverage useful. Why explicitly exclude them?
He’s scared of them.
If he were to mess with the Fed it would impact Wall Street, particularly by making the market indices go down.
For whatever reason he cares about that in ways he doesn’t care about his approval ratings or the historical norms of the office. See how fast he reached a deal on tariffs earlier in the month when the markets reacted to them? Since then they’ve been slowly leading tariffs to get the message out so when the tariffs come the market will have priced it in.
He’ll get to the Fed. But it won’t be overnight. The administration will start messaging it and choreographing the change long enough before so it won’t spook Wall Street.