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Thoughts on Daylight Computer

jon.bo

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I have one of these and I'm just about ready to give it away. The problem is it doesn't fit a use case that I don't have better solutions for. I've found that writing on the screen makes me prefer paper; reading on the screen makes me prefer books. I wanted to like the DC-1 but every time I use it something feels off. Maybe that's partly because I don't enjoy the Android experience.

If you decide to give it away, I will happily pay for shipping. I could use it as a PhD student!

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Interesting; the reason I wanted one was specifically because I wanted to have an Android e-ink reader so that I could use the O'Reilly Learning app with an e-ink screen. The Kindle Fire screen is "fine", but the e-paper stuff always was nicer for me to read off of. I can't read my own handwriting anymore, so "real" paper is out of the question for me.

Also keep in mind that the Daylight doesn't have an e-ink screen like a Kindle. It is instead a grayscale transflective LCD. That is why it is able to have a high refresh rate like other LCD panels.

I did not realize that. I don't think I want that then.

Maybe I should try out the remarkable.

Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

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I have one of these and I'm just about ready to give it away. The problem is it doesn't fit a use case that I don't have better solutions for. I've found that writing on the screen makes me prefer paper; reading on the screen makes me prefer books. I wanted to like the DC-1 but every time I use it something feels off. Maybe that's partly because I don't enjoy the Android experience.

I'm not sure I'm there yet (giving it away) but similarly annoyed by some of its teething pains. For me it seems to do all the things, and it runs longer than my iPad pro does on a charge (and like the OP author I suspect that is entirely because I run the display as near 0 brightness)

I really appreciate using it as a writing device in portrait mode, something that I really wish the iPad pro could do with its "magic" keyboard. I continue to look for more intuitive drawing solutions.

I also agree with the author that Android has that 'dos' feel of poorly bodged together hardware specific drivers/stuff and OS stuff.

As a result it hasn't replaced my ReMarkable 2 like I thought it might, I'd really love the RM2 to have a higher refresh rate than it does alas.

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I really enjoy my DC-1 but after a quick skim, I didn't notice any mention of the screen's ability to scratch. I took mine in a backpack up to my parents place and apparently something lightly caused a scratch on the screen so now I just have a permanent little gouge. Thankfully I've learned to ignore it over time but yeah, don't assume it's as indestructible as a lot of screens. The DC-1 does/did ship with a padded…

Vast majority of e-ink devices have little to no scratch resistance and need covers. Are people so used to gorilla glass that they forget other displays exist now? A rare exception is the BigME E-ink phones but those have glossy glass over the screens and a matte screen protector to combat the gloss.

>Are people so used to gorilla glass that they forget other displays exist now?

Yes? Phones have gotten incredibly scratch resistant over the years. It's kind of expected that portable devices will do a good job of this because they get moved a lot.

Not saying it's easy with e-ink and touch capabilities though, it may be very hard. However, I can see why someone would expect it to 'just work'.

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I've written about this before, but I too gave up on my Daylight - even though I truly love what they are trying to accomplish. I found it: - oddly heavy, the Daylight is made of all plastic (body & screen) - yet it’s heavier than an iPad Air made from metal & glass. - handwriting lag, the input lags when I use the pen is so much that it distracts me while writing a sentence. I have to concentrate to ensure it’s keep…

From theverge review: the fact that I can slide my fingernail between the display and the case and literally pry the thing apart As long as it doesn't RUD, opening with no tools seems like a feature but the review reads like its a bug.

> As long as it doesn't RUD, opening with no tools seems like a feature but the review reads like its a bug.

What is RUD?

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From theverge review: the fact that I can slide my fingernail between the display and the case and literally pry the thing apart As long as it doesn't RUD, opening with no tools seems like a feature but the review reads like its a bug.

> As long as it doesn't RUD, opening with no tools seems like a feature but the review reads like its a bug. What is RUD?

Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly, a rocketry euphemism for an explosion

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Also keep in mind that the Daylight doesn't have an e-ink screen like a Kindle. It is instead a grayscale transflective LCD. That is why it is able to have a high refresh rate like other LCD panels.

I did not realize that. I don't think I want that then. Maybe I should try out the remarkable.

I use a Boox Note 2 almost daily for reading and regularly with a bluetooth keyboard for writing. It has a stylus, and the OCR is good enough for even my terrible handwriting (I should have been a doctor apparently) and I use that to scribble in the margin of PDFs etc.

My setup uses Autosync [1] to synchronise a folder from my desktop to the device. On my desktop I have Zotero (a Citation library) and Calibre both configured to export to that folder (in subfolders). With two way sync my notes are back on my PC almost instantly which is fantastic.

I also run Readwise and Obsidian on the Boox.

1: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ttxapps.au...

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They look like good products, but my daughter had a really bad experience with them - she bought one, it arrived with the screen broken, and they refused to accept that was possible and said she must have broken it and refused a refund.

Unfortunately Onyx Boox have used sockpuppets and other dirty tricks on Reddit[0] and elsewhere to harass and deter users reporting broken screens. Their international partners have webpages explaining how it's "impossible" that e-ink screens can be damaged or broken without you dropping or sitting on them[1] And in general the company is hostile to anyone with damaged devices or issues of other sorts. Although no-on…

Throwing another vote out there for Supernote. Very responsive, particularly around handwriting - which feels flawless. Been a perfect device for me, but more limited than a Boox. That’s fine for my use-case, but still worth calling out.

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I did not realize that. I don't think I want that then. Maybe I should try out the remarkable.

I use a Boox Note 2 almost daily for reading and regularly with a bluetooth keyboard for writing. It has a stylus, and the OCR is good enough for even my terrible handwriting (I should have been a doctor apparently) and I use that to scribble in the margin of PDFs etc. My setup uses Autosync [1] to synchronise a folder from my desktop to the device. On my desktop I have Zotero (a Citation library) and Calibre both co…

> OCR is good enough for even my terrible handwriting

Challenge accepted! I can't even read my own handwriting anymore, I would be incredibly impressed if an OCR can.

It's sort of a feedback loop; my handwriting is bad, so I type everything, so I never use a pen, so I don't practice my handwriting, so my handwriting gets worse. As it stands, I don't think I've written anything with pen and paper (other than a signature) since ~2021?

I've thought about picking up something in the Boox series but they've always been just a bit too pricey for me to justify; I'm afraid it would be yet another tablet thing that I use for a week and then just ends up collecting dust under my bed (of which I have a bunch).

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