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Some missing context is that the data is shared via the DeepSeek app's use of ByteDance analytics/configuration frameworks. So not a backroom deal where DeekSeek handed over the chat history for its user base, but rather ongoing analytics data being sent from the DeepSeek mobile app. Here's the SecurityScoreCard article that brought attention to this: https://securityscorecard.com/blog/a-deep-peek-at-deepseek/#... Be…
... in the same way a lot of website in this world 'shared user data' with Google. Through Google Analytics. Yeah, believe it or not. ByteDance has a cloud offering. And it includes a frontend APM product. And DeepSeek used that. How surprising! A Chinese company used a Chinese cloud. Oh, and chat.deepseek.com resolve to a Huawei Cloud IP address in China. It resolves to Cloudflare outside of mainland China, but who…
Using a Chinese company for every thing except for distillation for which they used OpenAI lol.
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Yes, exactly, what the guy above was saying is that they're just looking for excuses to keep people from using the Chinese thing.
Protectionism can be dumb, if competition from china is decimation the US LLM market, making the cheaper better competitors illegal sounds like sound advice to someone like trump, probably?
Some missing context is that the data is shared via the DeepSeek app's use of ByteDance analytics/configuration frameworks. So not a backroom deal where DeekSeek handed over the chat history for its user base, but rather ongoing analytics data being sent from the DeepSeek mobile app. Here's the SecurityScoreCard article that brought attention to this: https://securityscorecard.com/blog/a-deep-peek-at-deepseek/#... Be…
Interesting, but I don't think those details will be ameliorative to the people who are concerned (e.g. U.S. Congress). In fact, I wonder if it may further underscore their concerns, given that it surfaces the interconnectedness between all of these firms.
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People had the same theory for chatgpt, except rather than Xi and Tiananmen, it was how to make meth and anti-"woke" topics.
A US Tiananmen-comparable example would be ChatGPT censoring George Floyd's death or killing of Native Americans, etc. ChatGPT doesn't censor these topics
If they sold it, isn't that like what... literally almost every single company does nowadays unless you pay up?
I don't think so. You can't buy user data from Google or Facebook or Apple or Microsoft and they probably have more of it than anybody else.
Shouldn't this be the other way around? TikTok has the most user data for any LLM to train with. I bet they will make a killing with it, unless of course the CCP decrees that they share it for free.
Firstly, Bytedance is far more than just Tiktok. Secondly, most data in China is shared among most companies anyway, because, firstly, the government (not necessarily CCP) orders most companies to share data with "technological leaders" and "strategically important" companies, and secondly because computer security is mostly an alien concept to Chinese. Copyright (broadly speaking, most restrictions on unrestricted d…
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Interesting, but I don't think those details will be ameliorative to the people who are concerned (e.g. U.S. Congress). In fact, I wonder if it may further underscore their concerns, given that it surfaces the interconnectedness between all of these firms.
Would you say that US-based apps that use e.g. Google Analytics, and therefore share information with Google, "surface the interconnectedness between all of these firms" and are a good reason to e.g. ban apps from US-based developers?