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USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by stogot »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #102
stogot wrote: post #100

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Not really. Forceful taxation (by jail) to redistribute the money to states or national security is a boring topic, but redistribution of wealth to ‘for n in NATIONS’ is worth an intellectual challenge. And even if you don’t care about taxation, why is the US running this entity and not supprting an international donation match to the UN? The US is running a deficit if you haven’t noticed, not a surplus.

There's also an underlying validity to the "property is theft" argument. They both have a correct underlying principle. And both are wrong in the totality. > a deficit A deficit in little pieces of paper they print themselves, and most of that debt is to themselves.

It sounds like you don’t know how interest or debt works. If you have children, your children are going to be paying for generations

Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by tremon »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #103
mplanchard wrote: post #68

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> we, American citizens, will never receive anything like that amount of aid 21% of the federal budget goes to Social Security (aid) 16% goes to medicare (aid) 10% goes to other health spending (probably at least partially aid -- edit: further research shows that of this, around 90% is some kind of aid) 7% goes to income security (aid) 4% goes to veteran services (aid) 3% goes to education, training, employment, and…

If you are a young person today, your chance of getting Social Security is low because it will be scrapped by the time we reach that age. Medicare also is for seniors, Medicaid is for the impoverished. Veteran services are for veterans. Most of what you describe is not for the average American citizen. But it is the average American citizen who has more credit card debt than ever before, whose wages don't keep pace w…

Your first claim was "we, American citizens, will never receive anything like that" and after that's been thoroughly debunked, you're conveniently moving the goalposts. Now it's suddenly all about some ill-defined "average citizen", and I'm sure your next claim is that veterans, people on welfare, and people with medical problems are all somehow not average.

Do better.

Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

tremon wrote: post #112
aprilthird2021 wrote: post #103

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If you are a young person today, your chance of getting Social Security is low because it will be scrapped by the time we reach that age. Medicare also is for seniors, Medicaid is for the impoverished. Veteran services are for veterans. Most of what you describe is not for the average American citizen. But it is the average American citizen who has more credit card debt than ever before, whose wages don't keep pace w…

Your first claim was "we, American citizens, will never receive anything like that" and after that's been thoroughly debunked, you're conveniently moving the goalposts. Now it's suddenly all about some ill-defined "average citizen", and I'm sure your next claim is that veterans, people on welfare, and people with medical problems are all somehow not average. Do better.

People with medical problems don't receive Medicare and Medicaid, the impoverished and senior citizens do.

Say what you will, but if the only American citizens who receive aid from their country are senior citizens, veterans, and the impoverished, then the rest are gonna be mad when they see billions of their hard earned taxes flying out to other countries instead of spent on them. That just is what it is. Especially as the economic prospects for an average working man in the US gets worse and worse every year

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Post by c_o_n_v_e_x »

epoxia wrote: post #108
ivewonyoung wrote: post #76

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Country yes but govt no. Just the interest on the US debt is almost a trillion dollars a year now which is 3% of GDP and the debt is ~35 trillion. Deficit spending is higher than federal taxes on the paycheck, which means you're basically paying double of what your paycheck shows. Meanwhile Norway's sovereign wealth fund has $1.75 trillion dollars.

Norway and Singapore are petro-states. Alaska and Texas (to a much smaller degree) have wealth funds off of resources. Whether they're fiscally responsible with that is up to the state.

Labelling Singapore as a petro-state is a stretch. Collecting taxes from refining is a very different thing than reaping the benefits of royalties from oil production.

Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by hello_moto »

ivewonyoung wrote: post #78
EA-3167 wrote: post #26

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I see that as different, it is first and foremost an American project, born from a conflict between superpowers. I don't think the same is true about global charity.

It was a conflict between Communism/Socialism and Capitalism on the world stage and the proxy wars were fought over those ideologies. Now that communism is mostly recognized as a dead end, I wonder if the world order will slowly re-align. Socialism is taking off with Gen Z(see Reddit) so maybe the next administration will be socialist with AOC, Warren and Bernie.

Next admin a socialist? Hold my beer sez Oligarchs.

Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by gadders »

LunaSea wrote: post #67
gadders wrote: post #23

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Wait until you hear about NATO (and I say this as a Brit).

Estonia and Poland both spend more as % of GDP than the US. The US also spends less than the amount designated by the UN on foreign aid. America also spent less than Germany in % of GDP in the World Health Organization funding.

I think the WHO proved during COVID it is an ineffective, corrupt organisation. I hope more countries leave it.

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Post by andy_ppp »

LunaSea wrote: post #73
andrewinardeer wrote: post #20

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Australia just gave America a down payment of $800 million to build submarines.

Submarines the US is incapable of producing.

I dunno, one thing is for sure the US has some amazing submarine technology. What makes you say they can't be made?

Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by andy_ppp »

sharemywin wrote: post #55
diob wrote: post #11

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There's always money to be made from things failing or instability unfortunately. There's a reason they want to cause the economy to crash.

crypto. and network states. curtis yarvin.

Haha, crypto is great while there is money for pure speculation. Only Gold will hold it's value.

Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by LunaSea »

andy_ppp wrote: post #118
LunaSea wrote: post #73

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Submarines the US is incapable of producing.

I dunno, one thing is for sure the US has some amazing submarine technology. What makes you say they can't be made?

Because the US submarine production calender is completely full and unable to scale up.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-18/aukus-congress-subcom...

Australia will also not have full control of their own submarines:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/07/austra...

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