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Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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You think this is normal and within the established political norms? It’s so far outside what is considered normal that people are no longer talking about the $30 billion Trump made off his crypto coin. Trump has been found by a jury to have committed sexual assault, fraudulently running a charity, etc. What’a amazing is that otherwise decent people follow such a debased, pathetic human being.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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hey it doesn’t hurt to ask

That's true, but it's an interest tactic to ask for the news to come to them.

"Tactic" is an interesting framing. This is a discussion. Some people who might want to participate are journalists who would already be in the process of confirming or have confirmation.

I'm not doing battle here. We're not at war. I'm asking for a free exchange of knowledge among people trying to be civil toward each other.

I'm operating on the assumption that a passing journalist with a source and an interest is already doing their job and, like most journalists, tries to keep it all free and public in recognizing that's best for the good of the public even if it's hard to fund that way.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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You must be kidding, the last decade is about Europe totally shooting themselves in the foot and giving up leadership in almost every field. US and China have been the big winners here.

The US fell in a month much deeper than the EU in a decade. Like I said the EU falls slower.

It may fall slower but it also keeps falling... US' GDP is now 80% higher than EU's. The usual retort is that Europeans are not chasing money and prefer to have good quality of life, healthcare, etc. but this misses the key thing that if your income falls behind little by little at some point you will no longer be able to afford those things... we're already seeing it.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Wait, so you're not just asking for other articles around this, you're asking for a journalist to see your hacker news comment and provide you sources?

I am asking if any journalists, many of whom are active on social media and forums like this, with the resources and access have gotten independent confirmation and, perhaps, written about it for their publications, yes. edit: I don't know why this is so vexing to sections of the YCombinatorati. bonus edit after a reply since I'm rate limited for a while: IME people here are happy to share articles when people ask if…

It's just an interesting take. Most people would go "I'll go find more new articles" instead of hoping that one comes by and falls into their lap.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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We're watching the ultimate destructive expression of the comp sci "oh, we can just automate that" hubris.

Thought process: “In theory auditing a government agency is simple. I can write assembly for a computer with millions of moving parts. How hard could it be to debug an organization with twenty thousand employees that need support to configure their own email? I spent literally two weeks watching accounting channels on YouTube, so with my mighty developer ultrabrain, this should be a snap. If only developers had time to work on these problems the world wouldn’t need all of these suits.”

People might read that and think I’m being hyperbolic, but I had someone on HN argue that their debugging skills rendered them better at medical diagnosis than doctors, and better at fixing cars than mechanics, by their own totally objective genius developer standards.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

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> If you want the return of wasteful, unaccountable and corrupt government spending on ideological goals

Corrupt? You mean like how Musk silences speech on Twitter: https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/03/musk-shows-us-what-actua...

Unaccountable? You mean like how DOGE has taken steps to ensure its communications are not subject to freedom of information requests and are sealed until 2034:

https://www.404media.co/doge-employees-ordered-to-stop-using...

https://www.businessinsider.com/musk-doge-records-public-inf...

Ideological? You mean like how DOGE is following the ideology of Curtis Yarvin. Curtis Yarvin thinks American Democracy is a failed project and must be replaced with an American Monarchy. Phase One of his plan is RAGE - Retire All Government Employees and replace them with sycophants and loyalists. They call themselves neo-reactionaries and JD Vance is a fan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23373795/curtis-yarv...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right...

It's remarkable to me that no matter how much Musk lies, no matter how dodgy and grubby his actions, there are always people turning up to carry water and make excuses for him.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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post #112

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That's true, but it's an interest tactic to ask for the news to come to them.

"Tactic" is an interesting framing. This is a discussion. Some people who might want to participate are journalists who would already be in the process of confirming or have confirmation. I'm not doing battle here. We're not at war. I'm asking for a free exchange of knowledge among people trying to be civil toward each other. I'm operating on the assumption that a passing journalist with a source and an interest is a…

You're asking for a passing professional to do their job for free for you specifically while you wait.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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> Is there anything we can do? Keep durable notes and share them with your electeds. Particularly at the state level. These kids won’t be prosecuted immediately, possibly never federally. But their actions will need to be systematically undone at the federal level and individually prosecuted at the state and/or local levels. This is going to be a massive bureaucratic and legal undertaking, and we’ll need record prese…

Keep in mind that the ruling party has massively powerful surveillance systems at their fingertips. It's hard to say how things will unfold, but being a dissident may not be in one's best interest.

It seems like there is a winner-takes-all opportunity here to me. Since many of the billionaires in the US have made the decision to align with Trump, if many of the states unify and can overthrow the government, they also stand to separate the billionaires from their wealth.

The Federal American government looks like it's playing a dangerous game -- or at least makes the assumption that individual states within it will be unable to mount a concerted response. With inflation and unemployment rising, and hundreds of thousands of federal workers out of jobs, it's possible state governments may become radicalized.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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And ... there we go - flagged by Musk's tech bros again. HN is starting to feel like X -- I've deleted my X account, and might have to do the same here.

I've now switched my primary HN link from the home page to /active, where, thankfully, flagged posts still show up.

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