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Re: EU to mobilize 200B Euros to invest in AI

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”while it's the sociopaths that constantly want people to live with the guilt of the original sin because that's easy emotional manipulation for the masses to push them towards an agenda” Why don’t you just literally say you don’t share the same values as Christ! Pretty sure that was his whole game. I really thought this needed its own reply, because Christ just literally showed up in your post. Like, the literal inv…

Please seek medical help from a specialist. That's a physiatrist, not a psychologist.

Shit, I knew I shouldn’t have mentioned the pyramid thing lmao. Anyways, you keep it cool man, sometimes I get carried away.

Gonna go find this church.

Re: EU to mobilize 200B Euros to invest in AI

#112

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Let's not make shit up. Yanukovich was democratically elected. I am very upset btw, as this kind of idiotic and aggressive foreign policy we pursued brought us closer than ever to WWIII, caused millions of unnecessary deaths, worsened our (Europeans) quality of life, damaged our industry, put us in a very vulnerable geopolitical position, etc. > Who are you, a Russian agent? The more you speak, the more you sound lik…

Yes yes call me names. > Yanukovich was democratically elected. Putin and Lukashenko are also „democratically elected”. I am not going to attempt discussing the rest of your argument. You repeat the after Trump that millions of people died (a lot of people died but „millions” if factually incorrect), you blame the problems of EU on EU not going to bed with a dictator… and you’re upset with EU not bending to a dictato…

You literally just called me a Russian agent. I don't think there's any point in continuing a debate with you, as you're clearly not honest in your intents.

Re: EU to mobilize 200B Euros to invest in AI

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> Oh, you mean the monument to nazi collaborators? No. But name-calling everything a "nazi" does not surprise me one bit. To hardcore Russian nationalists, the mere existence of Latvian nation and state is "nazism". Since they were kicked out in the early 1990s, they've promised to return, murder everyone who opposes them, root out Latvian people and culture, and make Latvia theirs. Such revenge fantasies have been a…

> No. But name-calling everything a "nazi" does not surprise me one bit... They were literally fighting together with the Germans against the USSR. Learn your history before making audacious claims. For your other points, sorry but you don't get to escalate the conversation with new arguments without first answering to all of mine. BTW 2021 is 7 years after the western backed coup (maidan). Hostilities had been going…

> They were literally fighting together with the Germans against the USSR. Learn your history before making audacious claims.

Perhaps you should learn a thing or two yourself before making such remarks.

In the first two years of the WWII, Germany and the USSR were allied. They divided Europe among themselves with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact[1] on the eve of the invasion of Poland, and then invaded Poland from both sides, and held a joint parade when both forces met in the middle of Poland. Other invasions (Finland, France, Denmark, etc) soon followed.

The same secret agreement with Hitler left Latvia to the USSR. After the fall of Poland, USSR started issuing a series of ultimatums against Latvia, which culminated with the Soviet invasion and occupation of Latvia. Independent Latvia ceased to exist in June 1940[3], and the independence was not restored until 1991. Latvia as a state was not fighting together or against anyone because it simply didn't exist 1940-1991. Latvia was under Soviet military occupation 1940-1941, then under German 1941-1944, and then again under Soviet occupation 1944-1991.

One of the excuses for the initial Soviet invasion in 1940 was that Latvia was too sympathetic of the plight of Polish people and too unfriendly with the Soviet ally, Germany. :)

The Soviet-German alliance is best illustrated by the frequency of the word "facism" in the leading Soviet newspaper Pravda: https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/13chr5f/mentions_of... In August 1939, they sign the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. In June 1941, the war between them breaks out. During the two years from mid-1939 to mid-1941, they coordinated their attacks and destroyed the independence of not only Latvia, but many other European countries too, until there was no-one else left between Berlin and Moscow.

To this day, this is big source of tensions between Russia and its European neighbors, because Russia refuses to acknowledge its role in the first two years of the war. Present-day accusations of "nazism" coming from Putin's totalitarian dictatorship against modern European democracies are just pathethic attempts to distract from its own aggression, and serve as further examples of hostility instead of the path of reconciliation that Germany took.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pac...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_military...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_occupation_of_Latvia_in...

> BTW 2021 is 7 years after the western backed coup (maidan). Hostilities had been going on for a while.

There was no coup in Ukraine, it's just another long debunked Russian talking point that lacks any substance. I've explained it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42986476

The closest thing Ukraine ever had to a foreign coup is constant Russian meddling with Ukraine's internal affairs. The best example of this is the 2004 poisioning of Ukrainian president. The before and after pictures, taken only a few months apart, tell the story of what a friendly neighbor Russia has been for the longest time: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-43611547

Re: EU to mobilize 200B Euros to invest in AI

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Yes yes call me names. > Yanukovich was democratically elected. Putin and Lukashenko are also „democratically elected”. I am not going to attempt discussing the rest of your argument. You repeat the after Trump that millions of people died (a lot of people died but „millions” if factually incorrect), you blame the problems of EU on EU not going to bed with a dictator… and you’re upset with EU not bending to a dictato…

You literally just called me a Russian agent. I don't think there's any point in continuing a debate with you, as you're clearly not honest in your intents.

I haven’t called you anything. I questioned your integrity based on your claims. You sound like one and you keep going on about this whole situation in that manner.

I was raised in 1980s Poland. I remember the soviet mir. Just the imagination of it coming back makes me sick.

Re: EU to mobilize 200B Euros to invest in AI

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You literally just called me a Russian agent. I don't think there's any point in continuing a debate with you, as you're clearly not honest in your intents.

I haven’t called you anything. I questioned your integrity based on your claims. You sound like one and you keep going on about this whole situation in that manner. I was raised in 1980s Poland. I remember the soviet mir. Just the imagination of it coming back makes me sick.

I haven’t called you anything. I questioned your integrity based on your claims. You sound like a fascist and you keep going on about this whole situation in that manner.

> I was raised in 1980s Poland

I couldn't care less about your memories of USSR. I wouldn't destroy my quality of life and put my family at a risk of WWIII just because of the fears of someone who sounds like a fascist.

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More likely "reparations" - €500bn a year or we're coming to Berlin ! Genuinely - this is a one way bet for the Russians, smash up Estonia and extort the Germans, spend the money on more guns and then kill all the Poles. Coming to a continent near you soon!

UK and France(along with the US) have nukes, so it's a much different scenario than WW2.

France and the UK have nukes precisely because they did not believe that a country would be willing to risk total destruction to protect another country.

Re: EU to mobilize 200B Euros to invest in AI

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It's the same in the UK. Pensioners had their heating allowance removed to plug a £22 bn 'black hole', whilst tonnes of money is pledged to AI. I can imagine the EU is in a similar state.

The UK is also sending eye-watering amounts of money to Ukraine without a problem, while everyone else is pulling out of the project. There was also the plan go give the Chagos islands to a country that is ~2000km away and pay them billions for the privilege of using them. There is always money to chase newspaper headlines.

Many very costly things could happen if you forget the Munich lesson. It's easier to stop Putin there than to let him have it and spend 10x on the next war.

Re: EU to mobilize 200B Euros to invest in AI

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Wow, I just read all the comments which are currently here (at my time of reading), and the level is worse than on Reddit. Not the HN I remember... Talking about the actual news, as usual with this kinds of programs, a lot of the money won't bring results, but that's also true for most investments from VCs. If just a few good ventures come out of it, that's already a great result. Trump is showing that the EU simply…

You do understand the difference between VC money and government money right? As a citizen of the EU I care greatly when governments spend money that for one they do not have, therefore saddling me and everyone else with more debt,and two when that money is spent not in the most efficient manner but given to the established players who can fill forms the proper way as highlighted in the numerous comments above yours.…

I do understand that difference, but also the difference between having tech being developed in Europe and not having it.

Re: EU to mobilize 200B Euros to invest in AI

#120

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I haven’t called you anything. I questioned your integrity based on your claims. You sound like one and you keep going on about this whole situation in that manner. I was raised in 1980s Poland. I remember the soviet mir. Just the imagination of it coming back makes me sick.

I haven’t called you anything. I questioned your integrity based on your claims. You sound like a fascist and you keep going on about this whole situation in that manner. > I was raised in 1980s Poland I couldn't care less about your memories of USSR. I wouldn't destroy my quality of life and put my family at a risk of WWIII just because of the fears of someone who sounds like a fascist.

After https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism:

> Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.[6][5][7]

I’m far from it. But it sounds like Putin’s Russia, which you appear to be craving for. Here’s a tip for you. If you’re missing the mir, move to Russia.

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