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A Year of Telepathy

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Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by sneak »

phillipcarter wrote: post #82
MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the problem with Musk? I know his many shenanigans, but what about his helmanship causes you to violently recoil?

Overt nazi salutes is one, but another is the intentional tinkering-with and partial dismantling of the US Government's system to dispense appropriated funds, and act that is blatantly illegal.

I have no extremely strong pro- or anti- Musk feelings, but the ADL (who seem to me to be the experts on antisemitism) say that’s not what that was.

https://x.com/ADL/status/1881474892022919403

There also doesn’t seem to be any corroborating data to suggest he’s a nazi. I’m all for calling a spade a spade if he is, but it seems that people are working backwards from the “I hate Musk” position rather than forwards from the facts.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by renewiltord »

The videos are remarkable. He moves like a person on a touchpad, rather than a quadriplegic. Incredible technology. The joy it is going to bring to so many is going to be wonderful to see.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by watwut »

SimianSci wrote: post #92
steveoscaro wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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When people mistakenly make a gesture, they dont do it once more exactly the same. And when people point out that they made this gesture their answer is usually not to crack jokes about how they made a Nazi salute in response. We can maybe disagree about WHY he did it, there's room to discuss if it was genuinely a white nationalism thing or if he was just being an edgelord. But it WAS a nazi salute and denying this i…

> it was genuinely a white nationalism thing or if he was just being an edgelord.

Can we admit to ourselves that most edgelords are actually people infatuated with exact same movements and value systems? Literally all edgelords get angry and strongly dislike anyone left leaning. For example, you do not see them harassing right wing, but you do see them harassing perceived sjws.

Somehow, there is no such thing as left wing edge lord. And that is because when left wing people act badly, they are blamed as bad left wing people. Edgelord is just a way to not blame right wing people and attributing them benefit of the doubt never given to the center or to the left.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by bmacho »

SimianSci wrote: post #88
MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the problem with Musk? I know his many shenanigans, but what about his helmanship causes you to violently recoil?

I think it comes down to his personal conduct. Specifically, just as I said, I think he actively tries to harm people who might inconvenience him or cause him damage to his public image. In short, I see him as a bully. One of the great examples of this is the infamous "Pedo guy" incident in which he showed himself as very unempathetic and petty the moment people dismissed him as he attempted to hastily insert himself…

> In the past he has participated in doxing governmental employees who might cause him financial damages, often encouraging his followers to harass beuraucrats and lawyers who are just doing their legal jobs.

Is this legal in the US?

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by computerthings »

romaaeterna wrote: post #108
computerthings wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> question your motivations/funding sources for the accusation That's the 1930s-1940s German ideological element. You're doing it right now.

Questioning the motivations and funding of a biased source is more generally viewed to be a Journalism 101 thing than a 1930s-1940s German thing. Nor am I Elon Musk, which seems to be the subtext of this "you're doing it now" claim (one I find quite bizarre).

That's not questioning as in asking, that's accusing someone of something nobody can disprove.

And if every single person who doesn't see the Nazi salute acts this way, smearing those who do, that's kind of telling. Basically "because it's not a Nazi salute, you're just a far leftist foreign agent nonperson" -- okay? That really does prove the point, and being confused by that shows having read zero bookshelves about Nazi Germany. It's perfectly on point, that's exactly been the Nazi MO -- projection and the most insane accusations dropped casually, like "questioning the funding that would make someone say it's a Nazi salute".

It's also been the MO of Stalinism and Maoism, and lots of cults, and thousands of other things. But he happened to do a Nazi salute, so hey. And in Germany there's mainly two main: people who are appalled by Musk's Nazi salute and Nazis who love it.

Not to mention how Elon Musk mingles with Nazis, which he does, and that it happened during the inauguration of a president who said he could shoot people in broad daylight and his supporters wouldn't mind. There's plenty of context. If your goal post is 1920s to 1945 NSDAP then that means having learned nothing.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by throwaway290 »

SimianSci wrote: post #74

I very violently recoil from any of Musk's ventures these days. Im sure there are some very smart and talented people working at Neuralink. They should go work for someone else as their boss has shown himself to be a revolting person and the kind of leader who seeks to actively harm people who inconvenience him. This kind of behavior is not befitting of a company that will need to cultivate an incredible amount of tr…

> Im sure there are some very smart and talented people working at Neuralink

I'm sure there are. There may also be people with The Com background (https://cyberscoop.com/the-com-764-cybercrime-violent-crime-...) working on it too: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-...

yea more known as the DOGE guy but worked at Neuralink before that. Imagine the potential for abuse.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by specproc »

sneak wrote: post #111
phillipcarter wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overt nazi salutes is one, but another is the intentional tinkering-with and partial dismantling of the US Government's system to dispense appropriated funds, and act that is blatantly illegal.

I have no extremely strong pro- or anti- Musk feelings, but the ADL (who seem to me to be the experts on antisemitism) say that’s not what that was. https://x.com/ADL/status/1881474892022919403 There also doesn’t seem to be any corroborating data to suggest he’s a nazi. I’m all for calling a spade a spade if he is, but it seems that people are working backwards from the “I hate Musk” position rather than forwards fro…

I don't think there's any real question as to what he's doing there.

The ADL these days mainly exist to shout "antisemite" at anyone criticising Israel. Their giving him a pass was sickening, and undoubtedly related to Republican support of ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

Other Jewish organisations have called it as the world has seen it. One organisation does not speak for a very diverse people.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk...

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by romaaeterna »

computerthings wrote: post #115
romaaeterna wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Questioning the motivations and funding of a biased source is more generally viewed to be a Journalism 101 thing than a 1930s-1940s German thing. Nor am I Elon Musk, which seems to be the subtext of this "you're doing it now" claim (one I find quite bizarre).

That's not questioning as in asking, that's accusing someone of something nobody can disprove. And if every single person who doesn't see the Nazi salute acts this way, smearing those who do, that's kind of telling. Basically " because it's not a Nazi salute, you're just a far leftist foreign agent nonperson" -- okay? That really does prove the point, and being confused by that shows having read zero bookshelves abou…

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Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by JohnTHaller »

SimianSci wrote: post #74

I very violently recoil from any of Musk's ventures these days. Im sure there are some very smart and talented people working at Neuralink. They should go work for someone else as their boss has shown himself to be a revolting person and the kind of leader who seeks to actively harm people who inconvenience him. This kind of behavior is not befitting of a company that will need to cultivate an incredible amount of tr…

Considering that Musk is purging government agencies and employees that investigated/are investigating Neuralink, it would be smart to stay far away from it.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by Philpax »

bmacho wrote: post #114
SimianSci wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it comes down to his personal conduct. Specifically, just as I said, I think he actively tries to harm people who might inconvenience him or cause him damage to his public image. In short, I see him as a bully. One of the great examples of this is the infamous "Pedo guy" incident in which he showed himself as very unempathetic and petty the moment people dismissed him as he attempted to hastily insert himself…

> In the past he has participated in doxing governmental employees who might cause him financial damages, often encouraging his followers to harass beuraucrats and lawyers who are just doing their legal jobs. Is this legal in the US?

Legality is only relevant when enforced, and it doesn't look like that's going to happen any time soon.
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