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Re: Fair Pricing

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post #75

This makes sense, if someone isn't using your service for a month, chances are good that they are going to cancel soon. Maybe they'll keep on paying for another few months, but if they're not using it, they're not getting any value from it. So rather than getting them to cancel, pause their subscription. You don't have to deal with cancellations, and if/when the user does return, you are one step further than you wou…

If the streaming services did this, I would probably have a lot more of them.

Re: Fair Pricing

#112
post #95

I stopped using Kagi because the results in my native language are terrible. It's a pitty because Google is the only search engine good at it.

That's why I never ended up using ddg. On the other hand I find that kagi is decent enough when I search in French, not as good as English but still better than google.

Re: Fair Pricing

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post #95

I stopped using Kagi because the results in my native language are terrible. It's a pitty because Google is the only search engine good at it.

this. I tried so many times to run away from google but I have to come back every time because all search engines are extremely anglo-centric (or maybe rather US centric) and really don't care about other localizations.

Re: Fair Pricing

#114
post #109

I like such moves by companies. It seems fair and stands out compared to most others who’d just take money even if the service is unused. I’m not a Kagi subscriber though. The USD 150 and USD 216 a year prices for family duo and family are quite high for many geographies. Hopefully Kagi scales its customer base and is able to provide affordable plans.

The Ultimate tier comes with an AI assistant that has access to Claude 3.5, GPT 4o, DeepSeek R1, and so forth. It basically comes down to almost free for me.

Re: Fair Pricing

#115
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn‘t this the classic gym subscription example? How many people have a subscription and actually don‘t use it. There is an episode of Friends about that. About the fair pricing: Would love to have this also for my car lease ;) But more on a weekly bases.

Gyms get you by making memberships cheap and easy, and cancellations incredibly difficult. The flip side of that is that only a small fraction of their members could actively use their memberships or they wouldn't have enough space. The active members get their membership effectively subsidized by people who don't use their memberships. Apparently up to 50% of a gym's sign-ups happen in the month of January due to ne…

> Gyms get you by making memberships cheap and easy, and cancellations incredibly difficult.

I think that depends on your country. I’ve never had an issue cancelling my gym membership.

Re: Fair Pricing

#116
post #111
post #75

This makes sense, if someone isn't using your service for a month, chances are good that they are going to cancel soon. Maybe they'll keep on paying for another few months, but if they're not using it, they're not getting any value from it. So rather than getting them to cancel, pause their subscription. You don't have to deal with cancellations, and if/when the user does return, you are one step further than you wou…

If the streaming services did this, I would probably have a lot more of them.

If the streaming services did this, I'd probably have pretty much all of them. Then, instead of paying monthly, you essentially have a tab open with everyone, and you pay for whatever you stream.

Indeed, this would make me way less annoyed at the thousand and one streaming services popping up like mushrooms after a rainy day.

Re: Fair Pricing

#117
post #111
post #75

This makes sense, if someone isn't using your service for a month, chances are good that they are going to cancel soon. Maybe they'll keep on paying for another few months, but if they're not using it, they're not getting any value from it. So rather than getting them to cancel, pause their subscription. You don't have to deal with cancellations, and if/when the user does return, you are one step further than you wou…

If the streaming services did this, I would probably have a lot more of them.

Similarly, for paywalled news/journals.

Re: Fair Pricing

#119

Just recently i was actually thinking about this pricing approach for netflix, apple arcade or whatever else. Basically i use it so rarely that i could just subscribe when i want to watch anything, and unsubscribe immediately. This will enable subscription till end of billing period (one month). Then when i want o watch anything again then i will repeat again. And now kagi has implemented exactly this but automated f…

5 years ago, Netflix started proactively cancelling inactive accounts. They lose ~$10M/yr from this, but it's the ethical thing to do. (That said, I'd like them to use an even shorter window than 1 year of no activity.) https://entertainment.ie/on-demand/on-demand-news/netflix-ac...

To be honest, it's insane to me that there's no law about this. If you're a subscription business and you see 0 activity on a paying customer for 60 days, you should be required to ask them whether they want to continue using your service (and no answer should result in service cancellation).

Re: Fair Pricing

#120
post #75

This makes sense, if someone isn't using your service for a month, chances are good that they are going to cancel soon. Maybe they'll keep on paying for another few months, but if they're not using it, they're not getting any value from it. So rather than getting them to cancel, pause their subscription. You don't have to deal with cancellations, and if/when the user does return, you are one step further than you wou…

I dunno. The thing is, Kagi isn’t really that much better than Google. When they still had a free tier, I tried it every once in a while, and it quickly wastes a lot of searches even while just entering queries, and then the chance to find something better than Google is mediocre. Perhaps a prepaid model might make more sense, especially if it’s designed not to blow through queries quickly and transparent about how many searches were actually done.

Compare to ChatGPT, which is much more expensive, but the value relative to Google is pretty obvious.

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