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Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Post by nozzlegear »

ks2048 wrote: post #84
softgrow wrote: post #80

And once it is released you'll know and the mystery will be gone. I (Australian) was very enthused when the "Somerton man" was resolved. But it took away mystery and wonder from me which actually gave me joy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerton_Man

Most likely outcome is docs are released and there is still mystery.

Put me on record as being in the "nothing ever happens" camp: Oswald done it, the grassy knoll is just a particularly grassy knoll, and the remaining 1% or whatever unreleased files contain a fat nothingburger.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Post by afavour »

chrisco255 wrote: post #103
IncreasePosts wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the idea was to wait for people mentioned in those documents to die, so as to not affect their privacy. You want people to tell the truth to government investigations in the future, and not hold something back because they think in 15 years the government might just release a transcript of everything you told them.

If the transcript involves evidence against a random psychopath who committed murder against beloved public figures (with no connection whatsoever to the government), I don't understand why anyone involved with such an investigation would be upset about the release of such transcripts immediately, much less 15 years or 65 years in the future.

In our conspiracy theory riddled world?

The first thing that comes to mind is Sandy Hook. Those poor parents being harassed by people accusing them of being “false flag” actors and all that nonsense. If you were a key witness in the JFK assassination you can bet nutjobs hell bent on some conspiracy theory or another are going to track you down and harass you.

Not to mention the way more vanilla stuff: people whose testimony incriminated friends, family members etc etc

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Post by ethbr1 »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #72
IAmNotACellist wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can think of a few agencies that might be sweating. Or maybe it'll come out that it really was just a random nutjob. Or they'll redact something and conspiracy theorists will forever say that the crucial piece of evidence is contained under the last remaining Sharpie ink

Heck, it doesn't matter even if there are zero redactions. I saw a good cartoon along these lines: Trump agrees with the need to release any and all info about the JFK assassinations, which shows that all the evidence points to Oswald being the lone killer. The conspiracy theorist responds "This goes deeper than we thought..." I'm all for releasing all the known evidence about the case, but a large swath of people wi…

We can also just say flat earthers exist. That equally proves the point.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Post by vkou »

bentobean wrote: post #75
adamredwoods wrote: post #53

Most of the documents were declassified already, I think 99% of 170,000 files or some large number. This was through the The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992. I don't know what's to gain in this release other than closure?

The remaining 1% is almost certainly where the good stuff is.

And if it turns out that there isn't anything interesting in that 1%, will you abandon this heuristic, and be more ready to accept that maybe the mundane explanation of 'they were kept classified because the people involved are still alive' is the norm for stuff like this?

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Post by acjohnson55 »

dh2022 wrote: post #95
RajT88 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading the Epstein saga start to finish has been instructive as to how power works in this country. I previously had not understood it.

What you wrote is very interesting (and intriguing). What readings would you recommend?

Not the previous commenter, but I would recommend Hiding In Plain Sight, by Sarah Kendzior. It centers on Donald Trump, but covers in great detail what is publicly known about the seedy history of the people in his orbit, including Epstein, and it calls into question how the people in power in the political, business, and media worlds have left so many questions go unanswered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiding_in_Plain_Sight_(Kendzio...

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Post by throw10920 »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #87
nomel wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone previously decided that the remaining 1%, 1700 files, shouldn't be viewed by the public. Why? 1700 files is plenty to hold some interesting truths.

I think the idea was to wait for people mentioned in those documents to die, so as to not affect their privacy. You want people to tell the truth to government investigations in the future, and not hold something back because they think in 15 years the government might just release a transcript of everything you told them.

That's a legitimately good reason. Are the entirety of those remaining 1700 documents redacted? If so, then they should just redact parts that would uniquely identify those last surviving people and release the rest of the documents.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Post by zombiwoof »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #87
nomel wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone previously decided that the remaining 1%, 1700 files, shouldn't be viewed by the public. Why? 1700 files is plenty to hold some interesting truths.

I think the idea was to wait for people mentioned in those documents to die, so as to not affect their privacy. You want people to tell the truth to government investigations in the future, and not hold something back because they think in 15 years the government might just release a transcript of everything you told them.

Truth to this government is funny
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