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The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by euroderf »

guelo wrote: post #51
medler wrote: post #3

I don’t know how this will shake out, but I do worry that these 19-24 year olds, some of whom are known to HN for other achievements, are putting themselves in real legal jeopardy. Edit: by the way, this post isn’t off-topic. It is about the activities of the US Digital Service (now known as Doge), and the exploits of young hackers who came up through top tech companies. It has implications for information systems se…

Nah theyll have pardons if they ever get into trouble. That was part of the reason trump pardoned the j6ers, to let all his minions know that they have free rein to commit crimes.

That's why they need OPM: So they can run off a giant listing of DOGE-droids and tear it from the dot-matrix printer and stamp every page with a big rubber stamp saying "Pardoned! D.J. Trump"

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by ansmithz42 »

strangeloops85 wrote: post #90

Have Elon Musk and all these engineers sworn oaths as required to be a federal employee? https://federalnewsnetwork.com/commentary/2019/10/the-oath-o... If Elon is "just advising", under what statute or directive does he have specific authority? If they are accessing TS/SCI information and places like SCIFs have they filled out their SF-86? Are any of them dual nationals and do they have any ties or vulnerabilities t…

Simple answer: No.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by jimmydddd »

xnx wrote: post #73

Are such drastic action appropriate given the current state of the US? The US probably hasn't been this economically dominant since after WWII. Feels like Chesterton fences are getting torn up left and right by people too young and incurious to possibly understand why those fences might be there.

US National Debt Adds $1 Trillion Every 100 Days.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by h197BQcV »

They have interesting pedigrees: Meta, Palantir, Neuralink, xAI, SpaceX, Databricks, Energize AI.

It seems clear where this is going. Data mining and algorithmic (claimed!) efficiency improvements while working on an essential and critical production system.

Since these people claim that "AI" does not need to respect privacy and copyright, perhaps they'll also train a model on this.

Where are the Democrats on all this? There is hardly any opposition. Are they not interrupting their enemy while he is making mistakes? That would be the only explanation.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by dang »

segasaturn wrote: post #87
jonnycomputer wrote: post #32

Can't believe this is flagged.

Of course it's flagged, this site is an altar to worship at the feet of the American oligarchy. It's as rotten as the rest of Silicon Valley. As JWZ put it: "A venture capital company's fan club, finance-obsessed manchildren making the world worse" Slightly NSFW source: https://cdn.jwz.org/images/2024/hn.png

I turned the flags off on this story 24 minutes before you posted this.

Care to revise your view?

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by aaomidi »

afavour wrote: post #95
xnx wrote: post #73

Are such drastic action appropriate given the current state of the US? The US probably hasn't been this economically dominant since after WWII. Feels like Chesterton fences are getting torn up left and right by people too young and incurious to possibly understand why those fences might be there.

Never appropriate. The actions are entirely unconstitutional. If the US decided to disband USAID it would have to be an act of congress, unelected friends of the president don’t come close to being able to make that call.

Doesn’t matter if laws don’t matter and aren’t enforced.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by afavour »

kittikitti wrote: post #99

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Ageism is refusing to hire someone who meets all the qualifications for the job because of their age. Refusing to hire someone whose inexperience makes them unqualified for the job is not the same as ageism.

To make the objections folks have here plain: these employees literally do not have the security clearance required to access the data they’re looking at. What they are doing is illegal.

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