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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by ceejayoz »

ajross wrote: post #103
pupppet wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this half of the country that gets their news from exactly one news source will either never hear about these events or see them repackaged as wins.

To be fair, media consumption is broad and even in the deepest red retirement communities of Darkest Appalachia, no one subsists only on Fox. In fact there is an active community of very Trumpy libertarians on this very website who pop up in the handful of political threads that make the front page. They seem to be silent here, one hopes maybe they've been given pause.

> no one subsists only on Fox

Well, yeah. There’s OAN and Newsmax and the evangelical Christian radio stations when Fox gets too liberal for them.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by fn-mote »

Applejinx wrote: post #36
diggan wrote: post #23

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> but half the country welcomed this wave of oppression with open arms. And the other half? They seem to welcome this as well, but with crossed arms. Where are the protests? Seems most people end up writing upset messages on Twitter/Bluesky, but also seems there are no grassroots movements to actually protest the borderline coup that is happening?

That's not how that works. The situation is set up to attempt to produce 'wild crazy radicals' who can be acted against super-aggressively. Failing to run about throwing rocks is a refusal to provide the guilty parties with exoneration for their acts. In effect, 'grassroots movements' directed by adversaries is what got us here, and is overwhelmingly unlikely to get us out.

> 'grassroots movements' directed by adversaries is what got us here

This is too pessimistic. Consider successful grass-roots movements: civil rights and maybe anti-war (Vietnam).

> and is overwhelmingly unlikely to get us out.

In the sense that nothing is likely to get us out? Sure. At some point you need to stand up for what you believe is right, though.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by RIMR »

nehal3m wrote: post #74
bongodongobob wrote: post #55

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The US is undergoing a fascist takeover basically.

You’re being downvoted but looking from the outside in, Gitmo being scaled up to house 30k people that the administration expects never to be able to repatriate, an unelected billionaire running around destroying institutions and a president actively starting trade wars and threatening occupation with allies looks an awful lot like it.

People aren't downvoting because they disagree about what's happening. They are downvoting because they agree with fascism, but don't like it when people say the truth out loud. It's a fundamental reality of fascism that those who support it will also deflect all valid criticism of their movement.

A majority of U.S. voters chose this. After all that was already known about this admin, they aren't backing down, he's doing what he promised he would do.

It is going to be more catastrophic than I think anyone knows.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by NickC25 »

nimbius wrote: post #35
hypeatei wrote: post #21

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I would just like to point out that Musk is the richest man in the world and is now directing critical areas of the U.S. government. Surely he doesn't have ulterior motives and is looking out for the average person?

If you look back at Germany in the 19th century, nations like Prussia and Austria had this sort of power struggle between the merchant class and the nobility at the advent of steam power. in this case the de-facto US nobility (rank-and-file career politicians) are being usurped by the bourgeouise (billionaires like Musk) at the advent of AI and tech by promising the working class a combination of culture war policy a…

>the question will be, after four years, will they abdicate their power or concentrate it?

You honestly think that's a question?

Power corrupts. You saw Trump, who in 2016 said he'd get everything done so he'd see no need to run again, he'd have Made America Great Again. He then tried to rig the 2020 election so he could stay in power, despite saying "if I lose the election you'll never hear from me again", and 4 years later, here we are.

These people are here to entrench themselves permanently.

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Post by ocschwar »

cmriversepi wrote: post #98

I’m an epidemiology professor and I write a weekly “weather report” outbreaks [1]. These communication and data blackouts are coming at a bad time. We’re having an unusual flu season—activity has rebounded unexpectedly. I’ve been having to scramble for data, last week by visiting each state health department website. It’s really troubling and consequential. [1] https://caitlinrivers.substack.com

Reach out to the developer behind 91-DIVOC. That won't cover red states that go dark when and if they do, but it was invaluable to me during the covid pandemic.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by Spooky23 »

CalRobert wrote: post #5

This is part of a broader rolling catastrophe. Musk is evidently seizing control of the Office of Personnel Management https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2025-01-31/exclus... Nasa took down their applied sciences page and is evidently scrubbing the data https://www.reddit.com/r/gis/comments/1icqchv/why_is_the_nas... ( https://appliedsciences.nasa.gov/ ) Lots of other data sets are disappearing too: https://ma…

This is the downside of the web.

Fortunately we have depository libraries, so some key stuff won’t be destroyed by these barbarians. https://www.gpo.gov/how-to-work-with-us/agency/services-for-...

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Post by tremon »

whatshisface wrote: post #91
Applejinx wrote: post #87

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That's why this is more of an attack on the Hacker News demographic, not Grandma. If you had a real startup doing real things in healthcare, this is an intentional spoke in your wheels.

Grandma goes to the doctor.

That's only an indirect effect. The direct attack will be when grandma can no longer afford to see the doctor.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by s1artibartfast »

mort96 wrote: post #99
bmitc wrote: post #73

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How is this not all illegal? How are cease and resists not being put into place? An illegal immigrant, narcissist, billionaire, and many other things is taking over federal agencies and actively purging them for his own ideologies.

I see these kinds of comments regularly and am curious: what is your thought process? What makes you think that it's not illegal? What makes you think that legality matters here?

what makes me think it is illegal. I dont think there is a congressional law that X data must be hosted at a given URL.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by diggan »

CalRobert wrote: post #31
diggan wrote: post #23

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> but half the country welcomed this wave of oppression with open arms. And the other half? They seem to welcome this as well, but with crossed arms. Where are the protests? Seems most people end up writing upset messages on Twitter/Bluesky, but also seems there are no grassroots movements to actually protest the borderline coup that is happening?

Protest doesn't do anything. I marched plenty and it accomplished nothing except letting like-minded people blow off a bit of steam and feel like something we did mattered. If anything it was just a distraction.

> Protest doesn't do anything.

Most rights that workers have today have been earned through protesting (and sometimes the bloody consequence of protesting while the state is resisting wanted changes). Protests only "doesn't do anything" when you don't do it enough or give up. Maybe I'm too European to understand, but the "pacifist" approach of the US working class seems to not be working out great.

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