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Goodbye, Slopify

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Re: Goodbye, Slopify

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Post by mastazi »

Even before the rise of AI music, they started "customizing" playlists based on the algorithm, so that you see different songs compared to someone else who subscribes to the same playlist.

This was one of the reasons why I left Spotify. There are hundreds of posts about this issue on the Spotify community site, e.g.

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Content-Questions/Option-to...

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Content-Questions/Spotify-P...

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Your-Library/I-Sent-a-Playl...

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

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Post by anal_reactor »

pjs_ wrote: post #46

Recommend getting an MP3 player. Just feels good man. 500GB of music, no ads, no network, no subscription, no distractions.

I have an Android phone with a 500GB SD card and audio jack. I use an app called PowerAmp. Recently they introduced some optional subscription, but I ignored that, and so far my experience has been fantastic. I've been using that app as my audio player for years already.

I don't get it why people but Samsung S99 Pro Plus Maxi for €9999 when cheap phones for developing markets are objectively better, minus the camera, and cost like €300.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#113

Post by JansjoFromIkea »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #93
magnetowasright wrote: post #51

I don't use spotify (primarily buy CDs and use ipod classics, also records because I am a cliche) and this made me think of the articles about the guy who was one of the most listened artists on spotify (piano for study/concentration type stuff iirc?) and he got punished or something because he was publishing under several names? I couldn't quite find that or what actually happened, but I did stumble upon this Wikipe…

I built this to satisfy the new music itch: https://audile.blankenship.io/ Every time you load the page it recommends a random album from Deezer’s catalog. The algorithm is pretty silly: loop Math.random() * MAX_ID until you find an album id that actually exists and return it. The goal was to recreate that feeling you’d get going down to someone’s basement and thumbing through an old record collection. Also 1001 Albu…

Part of that feeling involves piecing together that person's tastes and whether you can be bothered digging deeper into their collection. A more accurate recreation of that feeling might be to pick a random user with a large collection (or maybe a couple of users that are mutual friends) and select from their owned albums? Discogs would potentially be a better fit but you'd be veering into serious collectors there rather than a random person's basement.

I think it's neat though, enjoyed refreshing and seeing loads of weird album art!

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#114

Post by nine_k »

I don't care too much if music is played by a living virtuoso live, created in a DAW with a ton of synths, samples, and sequencers, or completely synthesized by an AI model. What I care about is that music be good not plagiarized.

If Spotify offered AI-generated tracks of stunning beauty and sterling production quality, I might even consider subscribing to it. But apparently the "slop" which the post refers to is far from this heavenly ideal.

So I stay with YouTube premium and keep buying music on Bandcamp from the authors.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#116

Post by kibibu »

Boogie_Man wrote: post #9

I stoped using Spotify when they committed the unforgivable UI sin of "loading a page and then moving elements on that page when web calls complete" that resulted in me clicking on something other than what I had intended to because it changed with my thumb a nanometer from the screen. It was a good 20% of the time and it made me insane.

This is the scourge of the modern internet. Even Google does it.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

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Post by magnetowasright »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #93
magnetowasright wrote: post #51

I don't use spotify (primarily buy CDs and use ipod classics, also records because I am a cliche) and this made me think of the articles about the guy who was one of the most listened artists on spotify (piano for study/concentration type stuff iirc?) and he got punished or something because he was publishing under several names? I couldn't quite find that or what actually happened, but I did stumble upon this Wikipe…

I built this to satisfy the new music itch: https://audile.blankenship.io/ Every time you load the page it recommends a random album from Deezer’s catalog. The algorithm is pretty silly: loop Math.random() * MAX_ID until you find an album id that actually exists and return it. The goal was to recreate that feeling you’d get going down to someone’s basement and thumbing through an old record collection. Also 1001 Albu…

That's really cool! I love it. I feel like I'm going to get a use out of it.

Yeah, I'm all over the lists. So many are so narrow in scope, which can be frustrating.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

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Post by magnetowasright »

JansjoFromIkea wrote: post #113
r3trohack3r wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I built this to satisfy the new music itch: https://audile.blankenship.io/ Every time you load the page it recommends a random album from Deezer’s catalog. The algorithm is pretty silly: loop Math.random() * MAX_ID until you find an album id that actually exists and return it. The goal was to recreate that feeling you’d get going down to someone’s basement and thumbing through an old record collection. Also 1001 Albu…

Part of that feeling involves piecing together that person's tastes and whether you can be bothered digging deeper into their collection. A more accurate recreation of that feeling might be to pick a random user with a large collection (or maybe a couple of users that are mutual friends) and select from their owned albums? Discogs would potentially be a better fit but you'd be veering into serious collectors there ra…

I love discogs. Also hate it because I spend too much money there! Serious collectors and random basement are both vibes I need in my music discovery life!

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

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Post by anal_reactor »

drpossum wrote: post #28
Boogie_Man wrote: post #9

I stoped using Spotify when they committed the unforgivable UI sin of "loading a page and then moving elements on that page when web calls complete" that resulted in me clicking on something other than what I had intended to because it changed with my thumb a nanometer from the screen. It was a good 20% of the time and it made me insane.

I guarantee that was some A/B testing and moving elements around drove what was technically engagement by 0.03% more. The best kind of engagement.

I think this explains why apps shuffle the UI around every now and then. I build muscle memory to access particular functionality fast, then update comes, I click the wrong thing, and that technically speaking is measured as more engagement.
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