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TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#111

The TikTok debate has always been about the balance between national security and free speech. We found a compromise. TikTok will remain, all of its national security risks will remain. Also, the law that tramples free speech is upheld by the court, but will be blantently ignored and unenforced. Everybody loses. This outcome is worse than anyone could have conceived.

"The law banning TikTok, which was scheduled to go into effect Sunday, allows the president to grant a 90-day extension before the ban is enforced, provided certain criteria are met" Sounds like they're operating within the law

From the ruling:

"The Act permits the President to grant a one-time extension of no more than 90 days with respect to the prohibitions’ 270-day effective date if the President makes certain certifications to Congress regarding progress toward a qualified divestiture."

Sounds like he needs to work with Congress on at least a basic level for this to be within the law, not just make his own decision and declare all is good. And there is the small detail that he is not President, at least not today.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#112

The TikTok debate has always been about the balance between national security and free speech. We found a compromise. TikTok will remain, all of its national security risks will remain. Also, the law that tramples free speech is upheld by the court, but will be blantently ignored and unenforced. Everybody loses. This outcome is worse than anyone could have conceived.

"The law banning TikTok, which was scheduled to go into effect Sunday, allows the president to grant a 90-day extension before the ban is enforced, provided certain criteria are met" Sounds like they're operating within the law

He has to kinda gesture towards in-progress plans to comply with the law to grant that exception, but that's not a huge hurdle.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#113

The TikTok debate has always been about the balance between national security and free speech. We found a compromise. TikTok will remain, all of its national security risks will remain. Also, the law that tramples free speech is upheld by the court, but will be blantently ignored and unenforced. Everybody loses. This outcome is worse than anyone could have conceived.

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Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#114

The TikTok debate has always been about the balance between national security and free speech. We found a compromise. TikTok will remain, all of its national security risks will remain. Also, the law that tramples free speech is upheld by the court, but will be blantently ignored and unenforced. Everybody loses. This outcome is worse than anyone could have conceived.

- "Everybody loses. This outcome is worse than anyone could have conceived." The outcome is *exactly* as anyone with a modicum of sense expected. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" —often paraphrased (sensibly!) as "deserve neither and *will lose both*." As you say: we've lost both—who could have predicted that? Yeah; well. https://en…

I just took the liberty to delete TikTok and remove it from my life regardless if it comes back.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#116
post #17

Tiktok has been working for the last 40 minutes for me after going dark last night. Some thoughts from Donald Trump: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1138556168486...

Incredible. Isn't ByteDance already owned 60% by international (mostly American) investors? https://usds.tiktok.com/who-owns-tiktoks-parent-company-byte...

You need to drill deeper to figure out who really holds the money bag. Not to say I know anything, but this page doesn't really say much.

But again, I don't really care about the nationality of the elites.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#117
post #12

Amazing stunt: The establishment tried to limit freedom of speech and Trump saved the day. Probably a pre-agreed sequence of events. Never mind that it was him who initially trued to ban it. Nevertheless a positive development.

There was never a freedom of speech argument here, unless maybe you are china. There are endless similar platforms available to individuals to express themselves on. Ones that aren't owned and controlled by China... America's biggest technological rival.

There are people who think similar platforms exist and people who have used TikTok, unfortunately.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

#120

The TikTok debate has always been about the balance between national security and free speech. We found a compromise. TikTok will remain, all of its national security risks will remain. Also, the law that tramples free speech is upheld by the court, but will be blantently ignored and unenforced. Everybody loses. This outcome is worse than anyone could have conceived.

- "Everybody loses. This outcome is worse than anyone could have conceived." The outcome is *exactly* as anyone with a modicum of sense expected. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" —often paraphrased (sensibly!) as "deserve neither and *will lose both*." As you say: we've lost both—who could have predicted that? Yeah; well. https://en…

I think that potential EU legislation can and should take this as a cautionary tale.
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