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Re: I deleted my social media accounts

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Post by ozim »

nindalf wrote: post #38

This advice to quit social media is always a hit on HN. When I was 10 years younger I read the same thing on HN, was thoroughly convinced and quit social media. I even followed the advice of trying to stay in touch by email. Sure. Turns out that a lot of people I knew posted huge life updates that I completely missed out on. I asked them why they didn’t tell me and they were confused. They said the posted it on socia…

I cannot say much as I don’t know the people.

Turns out that a lot of people I knew posted huge life updates that I completely missed out on. I asked them why they didn’t tell me and they were confused. They said the posted it on social media

My impression is „how can one be so self centered” to imagine everyone HAS to know about their big event if they were not part of it and were not invited directly.

Is that person Kardashian family or something ;).

Even if it was a wedding and they posted photos. I wouldn’t remember a week later - if it is a person I see once in 5 years face to face and I was not invited. There are many big life events of such people.

Re: I deleted my social media accounts

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Post by johnnyanmac »

jwr wrote: post #75

I'm puzzled as to why people rage about Twitter and Facebook going down the drain, and then switch to new services like Bluesky or Threads and try to convince everyone to do the same. I mean, why on earth would you expect anything different this time from yet another "social" thing made and run by a corporate entity? I moved to Mastodon, which at least has the benefit of not being owned by a corporation, which will p…

To be frank, I don't. That migration when a bad community becomes "the" community is simply inevitable and a part of social media. I haven't seen a good way to stop it without extreme measures like paid entry or an invite system. So that's the cost of "free" here.

It's still useful, but it's more like a a car than a town square. you'll have a lot of fun in the beginning, you'll normalize it, it'll start to break down as you try to keep it running, and then eventually it gives up the ghost. So you either accept that and not own a car or you buy a new one.

Re: I deleted my social media accounts

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Post by marginalia_nu »

noman-land wrote: post #80
marginalia_nu wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My social media presence directly affects my income, as the more I talk about the stuff I'm doing, the more visibility it gets, and the more money I make. Social media visibility (while doing something interesting) is also a good way of getting podcast invites and similar opportunities for even more visibility. Social media isn't the only means of getting visibility, but it's a very important one.

I get it. You go where the people are. That doesn't really negate anything I said except the rush part. Although being able to afford food is certainly a rush.

The part I'm raising an objection about is "[that it's] not a place for serious things". It's in many ways key to being able to do serious things, if used deliberately. It's the mindless consumption part that is bad, and the point of my original post is that you can largely engineer that away.

Re: I deleted my social media accounts

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Post by lazyeye »

psyklic wrote: post #95
suzzer99 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that community notes works well. But for breaking news, by the time it kicks in the damage is already done. I've seen malicious misinfo about the LA fires get millions of views and 20k retweets before the community note was finally approved.

Another major issue is that if enough people believe/support a lie, it doesn't get noted. So in practice, you end up having "official" lies that go un-noted, making them appear true.

I dont think this is remotely true. On any given subject there is an overwhelming horde of people desperate to disagree. And anyway, even if true, how would this be different from the previous arrangement where "official" lies were rigidly enforced by biased fact-checkers?

Re: I deleted my social media accounts

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Post by jpmattia »

jjulius wrote: post #104
jpmattia wrote: post #100

The right-turns on FB and Twitter make for big openings in the space. It strikes me as quite an opportunity to eat FB's lunch, just as BlueSky has been eating Twitter's lunch.

>The right-turns on FB and Twitter make for big openings in the space. I argue that the whole thing was a net mistake and any "openings" should not be filled. The lunch has spoiled, don't eat it.

I like communicating with friends, old and new. It's not hard to eliminate the cruft by using chrome extensions and filtering only by friends' posts, ie https://www.facebook.com/?filter=friends

So again, it strikes me as a huge opportunity, especially for someone who just does the basics.

Re: I deleted my social media accounts

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Post by heresie-dabord »

2024user wrote: post #85
qwertytyyuu wrote: post #32

Does hacker news count as social media?

No imo. no real names, no real profiles, no following or friending people aka no connections, no chat/DMs, no personal updates, no tagging, no pictures/videos/stories

No opaque ranking system, no advertising, no opaque ranking system to favour content that induces negative engagement...

And now more than before, HN is not social media because it actually has useful content and quality moderation.

Re: I deleted my social media accounts

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Post by incoming1211 »

nindalf wrote: post #38

This advice to quit social media is always a hit on HN. When I was 10 years younger I read the same thing on HN, was thoroughly convinced and quit social media. I even followed the advice of trying to stay in touch by email. Sure. Turns out that a lot of people I knew posted huge life updates that I completely missed out on. I asked them why they didn’t tell me and they were confused. They said the posted it on socia…

I think if people want to 'quit' social media, then just use it to keep up to date with friends/family. You follow ONLY friends/family, and limit consumption to only that, don't consume content outside of that circle.

These full fledged 'quit' posts are nothing more than an attempt at a political statement that falls on deaf ears.

Re: I deleted my social media accounts

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Post by jjulius »

wordofx wrote: post #17

Facebook removing 'fact' checkers is good, they weren't fact checkers, they were bias enforcers. Community notes is far superior to the bias enforcers.

Say what you will about fact-checkers, there are countless issues with the platform beyond that...

> Alex Schultz, [Meta]'s chief marketing officer and highest-ranking gay executive, suggested in an internal post that people seeing their queer friends and family members abused on Facebook and Instagram could lead to increased support for LGBTQ rights.

Re: I deleted my social media accounts

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Post by benatkin »

jjulius wrote: post #31
chenmike wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m pretty sure GP is saying if you already had an account and you delete it, it’s trivially easy for someone to register with your old handle and impersonate you Of course people can always impersonate you but the goal here is to prevent them from impersonating you with a social handle people knew you had.

If I recall correctly, the handle you deleted stays inactive and is unavailable to new registrants. This is present on Google at least, I assume it's the same elsewhere.

The concept of a handle goes beyond a username. If someone can construct a profile that looks like someone's profile on another site and contains approximately the words in the username, like _username or imusername instead of username, they might be able to impersonate it. In that case it would be good to have an active profile on that platform to counteract it.

Re: I deleted my social media accounts

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Post by Fnoord »

xyzzy4747 wrote: post #22
wordofx wrote: post #17

Facebook removing 'fact' checkers is good, they weren't fact checkers, they were bias enforcers. Community notes is far superior to the bias enforcers.

Yea it’s odd how so many people have become pro-censorship.

Change of geopolitics, tovarishch. Turns out being radically anti-censorship just allows the criminals to flourish.
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