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Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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I asked for bobs proof, and was given marketing. Then provided instructions on how to present facts, and still await the data. Then immature folks showed up to try to cow people with troll content. I don't have to prove anything, as the evidence was already collected and reported in peer-reviewed journals. People just prefer to ignore the cited evidence that proves they are full of steaming piles of fictional hype. =…

Proof of what exactly are you asking for? Certainly there is zero question that today's "AI" systems are making progress on a wide array of benchmarks. You can see that here: https://aiindex.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/HAI_... Look in the section starting on page 73. Or just examine this image: https://aiindex.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/fig_... There's your "speculative fiction" you seem so f…

Indeed, I gather you did not comprehend the threads topics, and instead introduced a straw-man arguing at some point in the future LLM proponents will be less full of steaming piles of fictional hype.

Assertion:

1.) LLMs mislabeled “AI” is dangerous to students due to biasing them with subtle nonsense, and a VR girlfriend convincing a kid to kill themselves. Again the self referential nature of arguing the trends will continue toward AGI is nonscientific reasoning (a.k.a. moving the goal post because the “AI” buzzword lost its meaning due to marketing hype), but this is economically reasonable nonsense rhetoric.

2.) Software developers can be improved or replaced with LLMs. This was proven to be demonstrably false for experienced people.

3.) LLMs are intelligent or will become intelligent. This set of arguments show a fundamental misunderstanding of what LLMs are, and how they function.

4.) Joel may be a USB connected turnip. While I can’t disprove this self presented insight, it may be true at some point in the future.

I still like you, even if at some point you were reprogrammed to fear your imagination. =3

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Can anyone recommend a resource for how to (architecturally) handle communication with a device over i2c? That is where I am kinda stuck atm when it comes to programming a GPS device. Backstory: at one point I was trying to use elixir/nerves on an rpi to manipulate a few sensor modules to try and produce a race lap timer for motorcycles: https://github.com/whalesalad/rabbit/blob/master/lib/rabbit/... I bit off more t…

So it jumps into detail quickly and is written by a vendor but this is a pretty good guide handling the architecture and detail. See how read and writes use device and register addresses to issue requests, and responses are managed with clock pulses and bus arbitration. https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/sbaa565 [pdf]

thank you!

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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post #78

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I have never understood why the failure to answer the strawberry question has seen as a compelling argument as to the limits of AI. The AIs that suffer from this problem have difficulty counting. That has never been denied. Those AI's also do not see the letters of the words they are processing. Counting the letters in a word is a task that it is quite unsurprising that it fails. I Would say it is more surprising tha…

Is that like 80% LLM slop? the allusion for failures to improve productivity in competent developers was cited in the initial response. The Strawberry test exposes one of the many subtle problems LLMs inherently offer in the Tokenization approach. The clown car of Phds may be able to entertain the venture capital folks for awhile, but eventually a VR girlfriend chat-bot convinces a kid to kill themselves like last ye…

You suspect my words of being AI generated while at the same time arguing that AI cannot possibly reason.

It seems like you see AI where there is not, this compromises your ability to assess the limitations of AI.

You say that LLMs cannot have any form of intelligence but for some definitions of intelligence it is obvious they do. Existing models are not capable in all areas but they have some abilities. You are asserting that they cannot be intelligent which implies that you have a different definition of intelligence and that LLMs will never satisfy that definition.

What is that definition for intelligence? How would you prove something does not have it?

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that like 80% LLM slop? the allusion for failures to improve productivity in competent developers was cited in the initial response. The Strawberry test exposes one of the many subtle problems LLMs inherently offer in the Tokenization approach. The clown car of Phds may be able to entertain the venture capital folks for awhile, but eventually a VR girlfriend chat-bot convinces a kid to kill themselves like last ye…

You suspect my words of being AI generated while at the same time arguing that AI cannot possibly reason. It seems like you see AI where there is not, this compromises your ability to assess the limitations of AI. You say that LLMs cannot have any form of intelligence but for some definitions of intelligence it is obvious they do. Existing models are not capable in all areas but they have some abilities. You are asse…

"What is that definition for intelligence?"

That is a very open-ended detractor question, and is philosophically loaded with taboo violations of human neurology. i.e. It could seriously harm people to hear my opinion on the matter... so I will insist I am a USB connected turnip for now ... =)

"How would you prove something does not have it?"

A Receiver operating characteristic no better than chance, within a truly randomized data set. i.e. a system incapable of knowing how many Rs in Strawberry at the token level... is also inherently incapable of understanding what a Strawberry means in the context of perception (currently not possible for LLM.)

Have a great day =3

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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The wiki is free and open-source? Or the contents of the wiki are free and open-source? If it's a wiki, it would be less than courteous to restrictively copyright public contributions (but I'm sure it's been done). And presumably, paywalling it would reduce contributions. My impression as to the number one barrier to hardware modifications is soldering . For some reason people can't or won't do it. So I'd like to int…

The Pinecil is great, but is definitely a terrible recommendation for anyone new to soldering. If you're trying to encourage people to learn to solder, they should be doing it with a proper station that can handle and maintain temp for extended periods. I have a Pinecil, but it's really only useful for quick on-the-fly jobs (which it excels at, in my experience) so it stays in my tool bag for work. It suffers from ov…

Ok, next time I'll do it like this

So I'd like to introduce the non-sponsor for this comment, "Pincel" the open firmware soldering iron

https://pine64.org/devices/pinecil/

It's running a risc-v chip on open firmware so you'll have cool points with when you whip it out at Richard Stallman's next BBQ.

So it's 10000000% clear I am making the joke.

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

#116

Great idea, and it's definitely an area I am becoming more interested in as a hobbyist. Not to be that guy, but I always think it's a shame to see an open source community centre itself around a Discord server.

Thank you for your feedback! The Discord server serves as a platform for feedback and discussions about hardware hacking and HardBreak. Do you have any suggestions for alternative ways to offer these features?

I like IRC, but that seems to be an unpopular opinion these days (but maybe appropriate for a bunch of hardware hackers, since you could probably host it on an ESP32 if you were so inclined lol). There is also Matrix, which is somewhat more modern, or Zulip as another commenter has mentioned.

Ultimately it's your decision, and I guess Discord is probably easier to manage. Just consider that with Discord the discussions and knowledge that build up on the server don't really belong to you.

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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post #86

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Ham radio's decline is more than explainable as a cultural issue. The culture of every internet forum I've ever visited for it is absolutely deplorable. It seems like each one has a handful of really grouchy old gatekeepers who lie in wait to absolutely dunk on newcomers.

We agree, but I suppose my next question would be why? What happened to turn these guys (or ham radio culture at large) into grouchy old gatekeepers? I'm generalizing, of course, but they were like that when I arrived. I can't imagine the hobby was always like that, especially seeing some of the old literature from the 50's and 60's in the US, which was very encouraging of mentoring and sharing info. If it's still th…

Amateur radio has always self-policed to a large extent. Mostly to keep the FCC off their backs, and I'm sure the internet has made it worse, but it's always been there.

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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post #113

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You suspect my words of being AI generated while at the same time arguing that AI cannot possibly reason. It seems like you see AI where there is not, this compromises your ability to assess the limitations of AI. You say that LLMs cannot have any form of intelligence but for some definitions of intelligence it is obvious they do. Existing models are not capable in all areas but they have some abilities. You are asse…

"What is that definition for intelligence?" That is a very open-ended detractor question, and is philosophically loaded with taboo violations of human neurology. i.e. It could seriously harm people to hear my opinion on the matter... so I will insist I am a USB connected turnip for now ... =) "How would you prove something does not have it?" A Receiver operating characteristic no better than chance, within a truly ra…

>A Receiver operating characteristic no better than chance, within a truly randomized data set. i.e. a system incapable of knowing how many Rs in Strawberry at the token level... is also inherently incapable of understanding what a Strawberry means in the context of perception (currently not possible for LLM.)

This is just your claim, restated. In short it is saying they don't think because they fundamentally can't think.

There is no support as to why this is the case. Any plain assertion that they don't understand is unprovable because you can't measure directly measure understanding.

Please come up with just one measurable property that you can demonstrate is required for intelligence that LLMs fundamentally lack.

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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post #118

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"What is that definition for intelligence?" That is a very open-ended detractor question, and is philosophically loaded with taboo violations of human neurology. i.e. It could seriously harm people to hear my opinion on the matter... so I will insist I am a USB connected turnip for now ... =) "How would you prove something does not have it?" A Receiver operating characteristic no better than chance, within a truly ra…

> A Receiver operating characteristic no better than chance, within a truly randomized data set. i.e. a system incapable of knowing how many Rs in Strawberry at the token level... is also inherently incapable of understanding what a Strawberry means in the context of perception (currently not possible for LLM.) This is just your claim, restated. In short it is saying they don't think because they fundamentally can't…

We are at a logical impasse... i.e. failure to understand the noted ROC curve is often a metric that matters in ML development, and LLMs are trivially broken at the tokenization layer:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Receiver_operating_characteris...

Note, introducing a straw-man argument and or bot slop in an unrelated topic is silly. My anecdotal opinion does not really matter on the subject of algorithmic performance standards. yawn... super boring like ML... lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yawning_koala_bear_(35893...

Best of luck, =3

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

#120
One interesting feature: an index of all existing (already documented) hardware hacks on commercial devices. I know for example the IP camera industry has a large models that many different people are modding, but their docs are scattered all over github.
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