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Dell will no longer make XPS computers

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Re: Dell will no longer make XPS computers

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Post by tim333 »

legitster wrote: post #13

I really appreciate when brands just name things like they are. Nothing is less fun than cross-shopping products and there are a bunch of arbitrary brand differences. "Precisions are their portable workstations . Latitudes are their ultrabooks. Duh! XPS is their premium consumer laptop!". Marketing departments tend to get addicted to the smell of their own farts. But I don't think consumers care about particular sub-…

I kind of like the way Apple does it - when the M1 came out you could get the air or the pro and that was it. And the difference was simple - basically the pro was chunkier with a fan and a bit faster. With Dell I'd have no idea which one to get and what was good.

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Post by thiht »

stagalooo wrote: post #99
wmf wrote: post #43

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Isn't the Air the lightest and thinnest?

Yes, people are only confused because they think it means cheapest, which is ultimately a failing of Apple branding but doesn't really make much sense to me.

Agree, I bought an iPad recently and was really confused by pricings between the iPad (10 I think), the iPad Air and iPad Mini

It makes sense but it’s not obvious

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Post by seba_dos1 »

vel0city wrote: post #85
imiric wrote: post #83

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Then that's a confusion the manufacturer should address. Consistency and clarity is key. But it's not solved by scrapping all of it in favor of "Plus", "Pro" and "Max".

Here's four potential model numbers/names. Latitude 6420 Latitude 5540 Inspiron 5555 2011 Dell Pro 14" 2024 Dell Pro 15" 2024 Dell Pro Max 15" Which ones are the recent bigger laptops? Which is the older smaller laptop? Which is better, Inspiron or Latitude? Which is better, the Dell Pro or the Dell Pro Max? Which naming scheme makes these things way more obvious?

Bold of you to assume it's not going to be Dell Pro 5540.

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Post by yread »

cbsks wrote: post #105
yread wrote: post #95

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Another variant of this is the washing machine nonsense: Bosch WGG244ZANL Which btw is a Series 6 machine (note the missing 6 in the type name)!

That model number is actually super informative. You have a washing machine, energy efficient, from 2021, model 24, 1200rpm spin speed, from the Netherlands. https://splaitor.com/bosch-washing-machine-model-number-deco... That doesn’t help compare it to other manufacturers, but it’s easy to compare to other Bosch washing machines.

Strange, local shops show it as 1400rpm

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Post by dagw »

chrismcb wrote: post #104
imiric wrote: post #70

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> Product names make no sense. Why should they? Every company has different priorities, and it's on you as a consumer to get familiar with each company's product line before making a purchase. Would you prefer it if all products were named " "? So in your PSU example, "Seasonic PSU"? Of course not, you would like to have more detail than that. So how about "Seasonic PSU 800W modular"? OK, that's better, but what if o…

Why is tx and px better than pro and pro Max? Typically pro Max is going to offer you more or better than what pro does. So pro Max tells me that it is probably better than pro (without designing what "better"is) but TX and PX which one is "better" and you can't always go by the price.

In this particular case TX and PX are referring to PSUs complying with certain third party certifications, and have a specific quantifiable meaning. So in this case Tx is always "better" (or at least not worse) than Px in a very specific sense.

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Post by 0x457 »

stagalooo wrote: post #99
wmf wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the Air the lightest and thinnest?

Yes, people are only confused because they think it means cheapest, which is ultimately a failing of Apple branding but doesn't really make much sense to me.

I don't equate Air line to "cheapest", I think of it where compromises were made in the name of lower weight: lower TDP cpu, less cooling capacity etc.

Re: Dell will no longer make XPS computers

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Post by 0x457 »

eloisant wrote: post #56
0x457 wrote: post #32

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Because it's just simple and makes sense. Mostly, the only confusing apple product is iPad Air because it doesn't match what Air means in MacBooks.

Personally I find it confusing that all of their iPads since 2010 are simply called "iPad" even though they're completely different. Same with all their products except the iPhone, that get a number in their official name. You have to dig into hidden "gen number" to find out which iPad is the one you bought 3 years ago.

> You have to dig into hidden "gen number" to find out which iPad is the one you bought 3 years ago.

This was the Apple way for long. I personally always liked that way. They messed it up with iPhone 3G tho.

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