No surprise here, but what a bummer that this is "The Way™" Just let me pay you $3-5/ month to never see an ad again. It's worth it to me since the service is actually decent.
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have a better idea for making AI chatbots profitable then I'm sure all the AI chatbot companies which are losing staggering amounts of money would love to hear it. The first step is to find any business model that works, shittily or unshittily.
Burning money is part of the plan. Winner takes all, etc. Need I explain more?
So anyway, what is your idea of a less shitty business model that can sustain their business? Paid tier? they already have it.
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#113I accidentally (another story) bought Revolut Metal (yes, the international micropayment/credit card provider) and besides other apps, I got a Perplexity pro subscription.
It works great, TBH, especially now that is "free" for me. I hope it won't start including sponsored links.
(Another tool I use daily and came with this subscription, is NordVPN. So at the end I don't mind that I accidentally clicked on the buy button)
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have a better idea for making AI chatbots profitable then I'm sure all the AI chatbot companies which are losing staggering amounts of money would love to hear it. The first step is to find any business model that works, shittily or unshittily.
Deepseek appears to be running profitably, by being more efficient in how they train their models, being more efficient in how they run their models, and charging a modest profit margin on each API call. (Source: linked article / interview with the CEO of Deepseek from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42557586 )
It's a Chinese company in a wild hot technology field that China want to compete in. I bet that they are very well supported by the state. Similar to Llama with Meta's money.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
You mean Perplexity Pro? That thing they tried and found that no one was willing to pay for cuz users say they want paid options but then jump boat to the free things always? https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/faq/what-is-perplexity-pro
"Hundreds of thousands of people" are paying $20/mo for it, according to the CEO.[0] That seems like a very respectable place for such an early product to be. It is extremely far from "no one". [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWPmu_rKxJo&t=185s
I wonder if cross-examined on that claim, that he would clarify that they have hundreds of thousands of Pro customers. Something like: It’s easy to get lost in the weeds of how much Individual subscribers paid, but that is an accurate characterization of the number of Pro Perplexity subscribers.
The point is, I have a Pro Perplexity subscription for a year, because my ISP was offering year long access for free. I think it is pretty terrible. The answers when I select Claude 3.5 Sonnet as the model for Perplexity always seem incredibly stupid compared to the answers when I use Claude 3.5 Sonnet from Anthropic’s site (which I think is really good).
I like the idea of Perplexity supplying citations, but it seems more like it is parallel construction than citing how the model came up with a particular answer. And, it seems like it is tossing out superior results whenever it cannot pretend to show its work.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
So does OpenAI, but they're still burning billions of dollars every year. Ads are another way to stem the bleeding.
Ads are myopic and signal lack of ability by a company to be viable.
Really? Ad is the most popular business model for Internet businesses. Any you saying none of those companies is viable?
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#117Surprise! Companies eventually need to make some money.
What!? Revenue!? No!
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#118Re: Perplexity got ads
#119It’s ironic that most people have jobs in the first place thanks to ads but hate on ads every day. Without ads the world would basically stop, they drive the businesses, each and every one. It’s a necessary evil that will always be in most popular products, especially considering most people want to get all value for free.
Ads haven't always existed. Economies without them can exist and we can move toward one.
Can you explain how a service like YouTube could exist any other way?
> Economies without them can exist
We should be able to both hate ads and understand that they are a necessary monetization model for certain things. If you feel strongly that they aren't necessary what model should be used instead?
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#120What are the advantages of Perplexity over, say, ChatGPT?
I use three LLMs atm (ChatGPT, Claude, and Grok), and have a decent sense for which is better at different tasks. For example, when asked about questionable web scraping ChatGPT and Claude give answers regarding ethics, whereas Grok gives more direct, technical response.
What is Perplexity better than other LLMs at?