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Plasticlist Report – Data on plastic chemicals in Bay Area foods

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Re: Plasticlist Report – Data on plastic chemicals in Bay Area foods

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> Additionally, acid in foods may break down the phthalate diesters we measured into monoesters, which our testing didn't detect. This means actual phthalate levels could be higher than reported. Just curious, is it possible for the acid to break them down completely? Like, poof, no more harmful plastic monoester, it's now just plastic-adjacent goop?

More likely it didn't break down the phthalate itself but interfered with the monomer their test method created and measured

Re: Plasticlist Report – Data on plastic chemicals in Bay Area foods

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So can smoking

No it can't. Type 2 diabetes is mostly genetic. I can eat as much Boba as I want and not get diabetes.

This is a simplification. Type 2 diabetes is heavily polygenic, but the genetic connection could be... you are genetically predisposed to like sweet food! In which case, the diet intervention would work, most people just aren't willing to do it.

Many genetic predispositions are behavioral, it's not all pure metabolic effects.

Re: Plasticlist Report – Data on plastic chemicals in Bay Area foods

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Paint is a huge source of microplastics that many are unaware of [1].

But also consider how you are wearing clothing made with plastic and the fact that it’s not hard to find 100% cotton shirts. Start figuring out how to have less plastic in your life. It’s not hard if you can be content to do it gradually.

[1] https://www.e-a.earth/plastic-paints-the-environment/

Re: Plasticlist Report – Data on plastic chemicals in Bay Area foods

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Have "unsafe levels" been established, or are we just assuming that any is bad? Edit: I see they appear to be using the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) intake limits for most of their tests.

Initial data says they're at least bad for sea life. Doubtful it's good to have such durable micro materials bouncing around our lungs and digestive tracts. Stopping pollution is also much easier than cleaning up after the fact. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10151227/

> Doubtful it's good to have such durable micro materials bouncing around our lungs and digestive tracts.

Having odd things in your lungs is bad. Having things bouncing around in your digestive tract means nothing. The whole point of the digestive tract is that you put untrusted materials into it.

Re: Plasticlist Report – Data on plastic chemicals in Bay Area foods

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Ice cream strikes me as a lot healthier than boiled play-doh.

Ben & Jerry’s Cookie Dough has ~25g sugar per 100g. Boba has ~14g per 100g, depending on the type. Coca Cola has ~11g sugar per 100g. In other words, ice cream has 1.8x more sugar content than boba and 2.3x more sugar content of Coca Cola. If you’re concerned about the tapioca, that’s literally just starch. You know what else contains starch? Potatoes and rice.

> In other words, ice cream has 1.8x more sugar content than boba and 2.3x more sugar content of Coca Cola.

Most Boba Tea cups I’ve seen are far bigger than the typical ice cream.

You can’t use per-100gm doses this way. You have to look at sugar in the product as ordered.

People don’t order and eat their food in neat 100gm increments.

Re: Plasticlist Report – Data on plastic chemicals in Bay Area foods

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Paint is a huge source of microplastics that many are unaware of [1]. But also consider how you are wearing clothing made with plastic and the fact that it’s not hard to find 100% cotton shirts. Start figuring out how to have less plastic in your life. It’s not hard if you can be content to do it gradually. [1] https://www.e-a.earth/plastic-paints-the-environment/

I don’t even know, but it would not surprise me if whatever they spray on cotton clothing to make it feel new, which washes out with the first wash, is also some endocrine disrupter. It is insane to me that we have allowed our psychotic cooperations and the psychotic narcissistic people who run and are part of them to totally poison our whole world and lives. This is not even a new thing. I know for a fact that Nestle experimented with including these types of liquid plastics into baby food, testing the maximum amount of liquid plastic that could be added to baby jar food because it would result in babies not being able to take up nourishment, which would in turn cause parents to have to feed more and buy more. I don’t know to what level that was implemented, but I know of a scientist that was involved and asked to do thinks he could not reconcile with goods conscience, so he resigned. I’m sure they found someone else somewhere with less reservations of morals. Most likely most industrial baby food has immense amounts of liquid plastics in it.

No one that goes through the trouble of cooking their own baby food feeds their babies as much as when they feed jar food, that foes right through them.

Re: Plasticlist Report – Data on plastic chemicals in Bay Area foods

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Are there prospective studies on effects? Afaik it's just in vitro, and I wonder if our bodies have a natural mitigation mechanism that would allow up to a certain amount without harm. I'm just afraid of what I see as a trend to attribute small factors to big things that are caused by societal problems, etc.

Indeed. It reminds me of NNT's anti-GMO advocacy.

Re: Plasticlist Report – Data on plastic chemicals in Bay Area foods

#119
Absolutely amazing work. I wonder what kind of funding / model could make something like this sustainable. Presumably, as manufacturing processes change, everything on this list has to be re-tested again? The current website has no way of crowd sourcing + verifying data, but that would maybe be a nice addition
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