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Decoding the telephony signals in Pink Floyd's 'The Wall'

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Re: Decoding the telephony signals in Pink Floyd's 'The Wall'

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post #88

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> and that ruined the Live and Kicking phone number jingle I thought I was the only one that had that number burned into my memory for all time! I’m glad, for my sake at least, to hear I’m not the only one.

0181 811 8181 Edit: Thinking about it I think was was Going Lives number?

Nar it was Live and Kicking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmNPyQ-OOp0

But it’s easy to muddle the two shows given the time that’s passed and similarities between the two.

Re: Decoding the telephony signals in Pink Floyd's 'The Wall'

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post #45

From: James Guthrie interview > Another piece that worked better than expected was the telephone operator. Roger was keen to illustrate the personal disconnect of being on the road. We were in L.A. at Producer’s Workshop so I phoned my neighbour, Chris Fitzmorris in London. He had the keys to my flat and I asked him to go there and said that I would call him through an operator. “No matter how many times I call”, I s…

I was wondering if they ever figured out who the operator was? I couldn’t find anything about her through my Googling. Seems like she should have some credit in the album for her brilliant contribution

It may have been Jane Barbe (AT&T).

https://telephoneworld.org/telephone-sounds/miscellaneous-te...

I believe (unable to fully verify) she got a credit in the 2017 album “Is This The Life We Really Want? — Almost 40 years after the release of The Wall”.

https://www.discogs.com/release/10441646-Roger-Waters-Is-Thi...

Re: Decoding the telephony signals in Pink Floyd's 'The Wall'

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post #95

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> It's not long enough to be a London telephone number, and, today, I think London numbers start with 020. I used to work with telephony until 2011. While I worked in Sweden, I am sure this applies for UK, too. There is no standard in phone number lengths, you can have all sorts of prefixed series, so for example if the area code is "1", then the number 0 could be routed to a destination. So 04410 is theoretically va…

Except in the US, and a handful of other countries who do have fixed length numbering plans.

Was it always like that? The record was released in 1982.

I know in my part of the world we went from 2-digit local numbers to 3-4-5 digits, to 8 or 10 digits over a century.

My point being this is simply routing implementation details. Even USA has 911 for example.

Re: Decoding the telephony signals in Pink Floyd's 'The Wall'

#115
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and that ruined the Live and Kicking phone number jingle I thought I was the only one that had that number burned into my memory for all time! I’m glad, for my sake at least, to hear I’m not the only one.

0181 811 8181 Edit: Thinking about it I think was was Going Lives number?

Going Live was before PhONE Day, so it was 081 811 8181 back then. Live and Kicking stuck with the same number when it took over, with it gaining the extra digit fairly early in the run.

Re: Decoding the telephony signals in Pink Floyd's 'The Wall'

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Is there an AI trained on touch tone and other telephony signals? It would be kind of fun to decode historical tones in music and film more easily

There are few well-documented standards. There are ready-made solutions that have worked for decades. What do you think AI would add?

Re: Decoding the telephony signals in Pink Floyd's 'The Wall'

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post #117

Is there an AI trained on touch tone and other telephony signals? It would be kind of fun to decode historical tones in music and film more easily

There are few well-documented standards. There are ready-made solutions that have worked for decades. What do you think AI would add?

Yeah can we stuff an LLM in this distinctly no ML-required task...

Re: Decoding the telephony signals in Pink Floyd's 'The Wall'

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It's cool to hear how that came together as an improvisation. It recalls a simpler time when a major album (or movie, TV show, etc) could just feature your neighbor and a random telephone operator without signing releases and clearing rights. It also gave Chris Fitzmorris (the neighbor) one of the greatest "random cool thing that happened to me" stories ever.

Alternatively, treating the “random telephone operator” as a prop and forcing them to be part of your project without consent is troubling.

Excessive empathy is not a virtue.

Re: Decoding the telephony signals in Pink Floyd's 'The Wall'

#120
post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except in the US, and a handful of other countries who do have fixed length numbering plans.

Was it always like that? The record was released in 1982. I know in my part of the world we went from 2-digit local numbers to 3-4-5 digits, to 8 or 10 digits over a century. My point being this is simply routing implementation details. Even USA has 911 for example.

I looked at a London telephone book from 1979, when I think the record was released.

Most of the phone numbers were something like 01 361 1234, i.e. seven digits after the 01 area code. The _361_ part was bold, so I think that was an exchange number.

A few numbers were something like "Placename 12345". Wikipedia explains why that was.

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