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Re: They see your photos

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Post by vunderba »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #37

This is really cool. I posted a photo of what I think was my great grandparents into it and it explained their circumstances in fascinating ways (to the point of mentioning aged clothing, a detailed I overlooked). I’ve been trying to figure out how to process hundreds of my own scanned photos to determine any context about them. This was convincing enough for me to consider google’s vision API. No way I’d ever trust…

I mean I wouldn't trust either entity. If you're serious about maintaining some semblance of privacy then you should opt for a local solution such as BakLLaVa or Llama-3.2-Vision models.

https://huggingface.co/llava-hf/bakLlava-v1-hf

https://huggingface.co/meta-llama/Llama-3.2-11B-Vision

Re: They see your photos

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Post by makeitdouble »

vishnumohandas wrote: post #95
IshKebab wrote: post #21

This is just an ad for their photo service. Which presumably has terrible search features, if it doesn't use AI to analyse them. That's one of the best features in Google Photos!

Hey, one of the folks working on the said photo service here. Ente has reasonably good search[1] powered by on-device machine learning[2]. [1]: https://ente.io/blog/machine-learning [2]: https://ente.io/ml

Thanks for the clarification.

My family library is around 1Tb, the weakest device is an iPhone SE, and the most used access is through a web browser.

Does on-device machine learning (provided you're syncing inter-device) work in that scenario ?

Re: They see your photos

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Post by panarky »

alwa wrote: post #85
panarky wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Google Photos doesn't sell your photos, videos, or personal information to anyone and we don't use your photos and videos for advertising." https://safety.google/photos/

That phrasing raises my weasel-word hackles… first of all, it’s unclear what it would mean to “use your photos and videos for advertising.” That sounds to me like reprinting your photos to advertise something—which nobody accused them of doing. Perhaps more importantly, it only mentions the photos and videos themselves in relation to the advertising. Analyzing the photos (as per the demo in TFA) isn’t “advertising,”…

Cleverly lawyered weasel words are usually complex, highly specific and don't cover all possible uses.

This statement is so simple and so general that it covers everything.

Re: They see your photos

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Post by throwaway81523 »

For all 4 of their sample photos and one that I uploaded, their thing failed to notice that there were humans in the pictures. It said the opposite, that there weren't any. I'm disappointed. The one I uploaded is one that I took some years ago, but I've forgotten the time and place, and I'd like to have had it tell me.

Re: They see your photos

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Post by vishnumohandas »

makeitdouble wrote: post #112
vishnumohandas wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, one of the folks working on the said photo service here. Ente has reasonably good search[1] powered by on-device machine learning[2]. [1]: https://ente.io/blog/machine-learning [2]: https://ente.io/ml

Thanks for the clarification. My family library is around 1Tb, the weakest device is an iPhone SE, and the most used access is through a web browser. Does on-device machine learning (provided you're syncing inter-device) work in that scenario ?

Embeddings (and other derived metadata) will sync across all your devices e2ee. So you could use our desktop app[1] to import and index your existing library. Newer photos will get indexed during upload on respective clients.

Search is yet to be implemented on web and indexing is turned off by default on devices with General > Advanced > Machine learning.

[1]: https://ente.io/download/desktop

Re: They see your photos

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Post by jacooper »

srockets wrote: post #56
philips wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The service is end to end encrypted with local AI for indexing. I tried it a few months ago however and the upload/encryption was so slow from their desktop app it would have taken weeks to migrate my photos to the service.

Apple Photos in iCloud can also be E2E encrypted (though not by default: you have to explicitly enable that), are indexed locally, and Apple's pricing for storage is about half of this service.

That assumes you only use apple devices for everything.

Re: They see your photos

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Post by duxup »

Hizonner wrote: post #20

It'd be more terrifying if it didn't hallucinate earrings on somebody whose ears are out of frame , make comments about the left shoe of a barefoot child being out of focus, and so forth...

It hallucinated seeing something on a jacket, and another item of clothing for a few I tried too.

It was very interesting to see when it was confused. It's not like when I think of LLM word math that I could sort of guess yeah maybe it comes up with that.

The visual hallucinations were things like "that's straight up not in the image...".

Re: They see your photos

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Post by Rendello »

Zak wrote: post #81

> The age and other details (racial characteristics, ethnicity, economic status, lifestyle) are impossible to ascertain regarding the swan . Emphasis added.

I uploaded a bunch of drawings and it explicitly mentioned "racial characteristics, ethnicity, economic status, lifestyle" could not be ascertained for almost all of the portraits. I'm not a great artist but it was able to pick up a lot of detail about everything else. I imagine the prompt is probably asking for these things and the AI is reluctant to answer, although it did say that the artist was probably male due to the art style. I am male, and I suppose my art style could be more masculine, but I don't know how to quantify that!
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