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Nyxt: The Hacker's Browser

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Re: Nyxt: The Hacker's Browser

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The one thing holding me back from this is not being able to run UBlock origin on it yet. I keep telling myself that eventually I'll have the spare time to change that myself....

so much this.. probably once a year I remember that nyxt would be really cool to use, but then I see it still doesn't support adblock on youtube and thus forget it again.

Re: Nyxt: The Hacker's Browser

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post #54

As someone that started in computing when affordable computing was all about keyboard, and mices only existed in computers with prices similar to buying a car or a mortgage, I don't get the hype of keyboard == hacker mentality. Specially since that on my hacker circle of Demoscene, during the 16 bit days, we were mostly on Atari and Amiga systems, then we had plenty of mouse time, and no one ever stop to wonder we we…

its a productivity thing, would you rather type text with a physical keyboard or would you rather use a virtual keyboard and mouse? you can miss more easily with a mouse and have to adjust the position of the cursor to line up on two axis before any action

Why bringing virtual keyboard into the picture, we aren't talking about tablets and phones.

Re: Nyxt: The Hacker's Browser

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post #54

As someone that started in computing when affordable computing was all about keyboard, and mices only existed in computers with prices similar to buying a car or a mortgage, I don't get the hype of keyboard == hacker mentality. Specially since that on my hacker circle of Demoscene, during the 16 bit days, we were mostly on Atari and Amiga systems, then we had plenty of mouse time, and no one ever stop to wonder we we…

> I don't get the hype of keyboard == hacker mentality. It's all about investing a little time to learn something that dramatically speeds up your workflow. A mainstream user has no interest in this even if they work with the computer all day. Hackers as computer enthusiasts do. When you worked on those early computers you either had to be an enthusiast or be forced by an employer to use them :) GUIs are great for in…

I don't consider being computer enthusiasts a synonymous with keyboard only use.

As mentioned, I started into computing when TUIs were the only affordable computing model.

There is no magic to me about whatever greatness of TUI and CLI.

Re: Nyxt: The Hacker's Browser

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I love visual navigation and exploration and wish programming was mouse-only too (with an on-screen keyboard to help with names). I’m actually using this setup for browsing - lots of bookmarks and gestures and an on-screen kbd.

Typing is overrated. Very sad that our tools are all typing-based.

(Yes I can point at least at prolog, epilog, mov reg,imm and int nn parts in a 8086 hexdump, if you’re curious how true of a hacker this is.)

Re: Nyxt: The Hacker's Browser

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post #54

As someone that started in computing when affordable computing was all about keyboard, and mices only existed in computers with prices similar to buying a car or a mortgage, I don't get the hype of keyboard == hacker mentality. Specially since that on my hacker circle of Demoscene, during the 16 bit days, we were mostly on Atari and Amiga systems, then we had plenty of mouse time, and no one ever stop to wonder we we…

Keyboard is not only faster, but requires less attention.

Depends on the typing skills between chair and monitor.

Re: Nyxt: The Hacker's Browser

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post #54

As someone that started in computing when affordable computing was all about keyboard, and mices only existed in computers with prices similar to buying a car or a mortgage, I don't get the hype of keyboard == hacker mentality. Specially since that on my hacker circle of Demoscene, during the 16 bit days, we were mostly on Atari and Amiga systems, then we had plenty of mouse time, and no one ever stop to wonder we we…

Even outside of the “hacker” community, keyboard has always been associated with higher expertise. Average “MS Word” user - Navigate through various menus to find what they want to do. Power Users - Memorized all the “shortcuts”. I think that’s mostly what it is. A keyboard (and a bunch of memorizing), gives mastery over the applications UI.

Some shortcuts are helpful, until one needs to do anything that affects visual position or drawing.

Very few people master shortcuts that require three key chords or more.

Re: Nyxt: The Hacker's Browser

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post #54

As someone that started in computing when affordable computing was all about keyboard, and mices only existed in computers with prices similar to buying a car or a mortgage, I don't get the hype of keyboard == hacker mentality. Specially since that on my hacker circle of Demoscene, during the 16 bit days, we were mostly on Atari and Amiga systems, then we had plenty of mouse time, and no one ever stop to wonder we we…

its a productivity thing, would you rather type text with a physical keyboard or would you rather use a virtual keyboard and mouse? you can miss more easily with a mouse and have to adjust the position of the cursor to line up on two axis before any action

That is a really biased way to spin things. Of course virtual keyboards are the worst of both worlds. And lining up a mouse on multiple axes is just an odd way to look at it -- on a keyboard you need to line up your fingertip on three axes for every keystroke, if you are wanting to go to that level of detail.

Re: Nyxt: The Hacker's Browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an elitism thing. Notice the terminology "investing time to dramatically speed up workflow". This is the mantra that the keyboard-only adherents have latched onto, and extend to EVERYTHING, including things that are perfectly serviced via mouse control, or don't even need speeding up. Arguing with them is like arguing with audiophiles.

Not sure why arguing is needed? You like a mouse, I think it sucks. If we meet up, we can trivially measure what is faster. What is there to argue?

Or we can not measure which is faster and just respect that everyone has their own preferences.

Re: Nyxt: The Hacker's Browser

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post #79
post #54

As someone that started in computing when affordable computing was all about keyboard, and mices only existed in computers with prices similar to buying a car or a mortgage, I don't get the hype of keyboard == hacker mentality. Specially since that on my hacker circle of Demoscene, during the 16 bit days, we were mostly on Atari and Amiga systems, then we had plenty of mouse time, and no one ever stop to wonder we we…

For text editors or IDEs, basically contexts where we expect a lot of typing, I get why sticking to the keyboard is desirable. I don't get how it's better to browse the web without using the mouse. Most of the time on the web I just read, not type.

For me, I’m often using the web as a reference while programming. It’s nice to be able to flip over to it (using the keyboard) and use the same familiar key bindings I’m using while in my workflow.

Re: Nyxt: The Hacker's Browser

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post #14

A few years ago I doggedly tried to switch to Nyxt for everyday use. I really liked the concept, but at the time, it was too buggy, and constantly crashed on me. I'm going give it another shot.

Nyxt is very promising, and I hope it gains momentum. The obvious advantage of Nyxt is programmability and keyboard-driven workflows. However, I use old hardware, and it's a bit slow and laggy. Chromium behaves the same way, so I imagine this is due to WebKit and Blink being significantly heavier than Gecko. Firefox is really snappy on old hardware, at least when running Linux, and uses a modest amount of memory.

Is this because Nyxt is an Electron App? (Is it?) The github commit log mentions it. Or is that just a "variant" of Nyxt?
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