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Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by weitendorf »

OJFord wrote: post #101
ndr_ wrote: post #74

Setting up AWS so you can try it via Amazon Bedrock API is a hassle, so I made a step-by-step guide: https://ndurner.github.io/amazon-nova . It's 14+ steps!

Your 14 steps appear to be 'create an IAM user'..?

AWS does not use the exact same authn/authz/identity model or terminology as other providers, and for people familiar with other models, it's pretty non-trivial to adapt to. I recently posted a rant about this to https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/1geczoz/the_aws_iam_id...

Personally I am more familiar with directly using API keys or auth tokens than AWS's IAM users (which are more similar to what I'd call "service accounts").

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by mrg3_2013 »

xnx wrote: post #108
mrg3_2013 wrote: post #95

DOA When marketing talks about price delta and not quality of the output, it is DOA. For LLMs, quality is a more important metric and Nova would always try to play catch with the leaderboard forever.

Maybe. The major models seem to be about tied in terms of quality right now, so cost and ease of use (e.g. you already have an AWS account set up for billing) could be a differentiator.

Using LLMs via Bedrock is 10x more painful than using direct APIs. I could see cost consolidation via cloud marketplace a play - but I don't see Amazon's own LLM initiatives ever taking off. They should just lose those shops and buy one of the frontier models (while it is still cheap)

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by foobarian »

lukev wrote: post #63

This is a digression, but I really wish Amazon would be more normal in their product descriptions. Amazon is rapidly developing its own jargon such that you need to understand how Amazon talks about things (and its existing product lineup) before you can understand half of what they're saying about a new thing. The way they describe their products seems almost designed to obfuscate what they really do. Every time the…

If you figure out what a security group is, let me know :-D

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by tootie »

ndr_ wrote: post #74

Setting up AWS so you can try it via Amazon Bedrock API is a hassle, so I made a step-by-step guide: https://ndurner.github.io/amazon-nova . It's 14+ steps!

I'm so confused on the value prop of Bedrock. It's seems like it wants to be guardrails for implementing RAG with popular models but it's not the least but intuitive. Is it actually better than setting up a custom pipeline?

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by jnwatson »

alach11 wrote: post #84
lukev wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but even then they won't describe it using the same sort of language that everyone else developing these things does. How many parameters? What kind of corpus was it trained on? MoE, single model, or something else? Will the weights be available? It doesn't even use the words "LLM", "multimodal" or "transformer" which are clearly the most relevant terms here... "foundation model" isn't wrong but it's also the mo…

> How many parameters? What kind of corpus was it trained on? It's rare for the leading model providers to answer these questions. As someone who applies these models daily, I agree with the dead comment from meta_x_ai. Your questions are interesting/relevant to a person developing these models, but less important to the average person utilizing these models through Bedrock.

Amazon is not a "leading model provider".

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by rsrsrs86 »

foobarian wrote: post #115
lukev wrote: post #63

This is a digression, but I really wish Amazon would be more normal in their product descriptions. Amazon is rapidly developing its own jargon such that you need to understand how Amazon talks about things (and its existing product lineup) before you can understand half of what they're saying about a new thing. The way they describe their products seems almost designed to obfuscate what they really do. Every time the…

If you figure out what a security group is, let me know :-D

Lol

What’s the subnet of the security group of my user group for Aws lambda application in a specific environment that calls kms to get a secret for….

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by plumeria »

jmward01 wrote: post #57

No audio support: The models are currently trained to process and understand video content solely based on the visual information in the video. They do not possess the capability to analyze or comprehend any audio components that are present in the video. This is blowing my mind. gemini-1.5-flash accidentally knows how to transcribe amazingly well but it is -very- hard to figure out how to use it well and now Amazon…

Is Gemini better than Whisper for transcribing?

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by fumeux_fume »

ndr_ wrote: post #74

Setting up AWS so you can try it via Amazon Bedrock API is a hassle, so I made a step-by-step guide: https://ndurner.github.io/amazon-nova . It's 14+ steps!

This appears to be a way to steal and harvest aws credentials. No one should be following any of these steps.
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