South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it • Hacker News Board

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by HelloMcFly » Tue, Dec 03, 2024, 2:44 PM UTC

Oarch wrote: post #51

marricks wrote: post #9

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Is there a specific Trump policy you're referring to? It sounds like the reverse to me. The dems falsely painted him as alternately sympathising with / controlled by Russia. I may have missed it but haven't seen him do likewise.

Not a policy, but Trump referring to Democrats as "the enemy within" and "so evil" seems pretty comparable. Is it a policy? Well, no, Trump's rhetoric isn't typically policy heavy. But he certainly has expressed interest in using US troops on American soil against protestors, and using the justice system to go after his political enemies. But he talks about a lot of stuff.

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by oldpersonintx » Tue, Dec 03, 2024, 2:45 PM UTC

willvarfar wrote: post #21

intoamplitudes wrote: post #11

Transparent coup d'etat attempt rumored to happen for months. The only option when the mouse is cornered. Approval rating in the <10% range, Japan whispering in his ear and pulling the puppet strings, crazy selfish wife abusing state resources, it is almost comically predictable if not for how serious it is. North Korea is always the convenient excuse... only hope Westerners don't get fooled by the rhetoric. Guy digg…

Are the army likely to back him?

and what of the massive US military presence?

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by anacrolix » Tue, Dec 03, 2024, 2:45 PM UTC

Glad I sold my South Korean ETF already

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Tue, Dec 03, 2024, 2:46 PM UTC

bhouston wrote: post #29

drdrek wrote: post #12

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This is just domestic politics, not related to international events as far as I can tell. Even the North Korea sympathizer line from the President seems forced.

> This is just domestic politics, not related to international events as far as I can tell

Korea is the largest shipbuilder in America's system of alliances [1]. Seoul would be critical in a war in the Pacific [2]. Korea flipping from democracy to conservative autocracy has geopolitical implications.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_shipbuildi...

[2] https://www.voanews.com/a/us-navy-looking-to-s-korean-japane...

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by tosh » Tue, Dec 03, 2024, 2:46 PM UTC

dataflow wrote: post #54

I feel like I'd seen absolutely nothing about South Korea in the news for a long time, and then suddenly woke up to this, with zero context. Do folks have any recommendations for how to keep up with global news at a high level so that you're not completely clueless when something like this happens? Like I mean some sort of "international edition" of an aggregator like Google News, I guess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by croisillon » Tue, Dec 03, 2024, 2:47 PM UTC

dataflow wrote: post #54

I feel like I'd seen absolutely nothing about South Korea in the news for a long time, and then suddenly woke up to this, with zero context. Do folks have any recommendations for how to keep up with global news at a high level so that you're not completely clueless when something like this happens? Like I mean some sort of "international edition" of an aggregator like Google News, I guess.

i look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events once a day, it gives a good overview of the world news

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by ninalanyon » Tue, Dec 03, 2024, 2:47 PM UTC

cuuupid wrote: post #4

Can someone ELI5 if this is a huge deal (like declaring martial law would be in the west), or if this is the equivalent of a "government shutdown" when similar budget impasses occur in the US?

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Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 03, 2024, 2:47 PM UTC

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Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by morkalork » Tue, Dec 03, 2024, 2:47 PM UTC

bluGill wrote: post #77

drdrek wrote: post #12

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Ask me in 200 years when I can look back in history and see how this turned out. It could be either, or just another case of something happening that didn't mean anything long term. Only time will tell. Of course in 200 years we will both be dead so you can't actually ask. Depending on how long you live you might be able to look back and state something conclusive. However nothing should be stated at all for 10 years…

We aren't even 100 years out from WW2 and the amount of revisionism and outright denial of events is discouraging, I'm not sure 200 years past will be any more accurate.

Another commentor mentioned Orwell and I'm reminded of the brouhaha over chat-gpt refusing to say a certain person's name. How will the past be accurately represented if chatbots used by future students can be manipulated like that?

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by sidewndr46 » Tue, Dec 03, 2024, 2:48 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #107

Article 77 of the Korean Constitution: "1. When it is required to cope with a military necessity or to maintain the public safety and order by mobilization of the military forces in time of war, armed conict or similar national emergency, the President may proclaim martial law as prescribed by law. 2. Martial law shall be of two types, extraordinary martial law and precautionary martial law. 3. Under extraordinary ma…

It sounds like the National Assembly just needs to meet & vote to counter this?