Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not when there is a duopoly on one market (US) and hundreds of companies on other (EU).
How is there a duopoly in the cloud market in the US?
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Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices
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Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices
#112As a Hetzner client, any price rise is disappointing. We are compute-heavy, not egress-heavy, user so will be largely unaffected by these changes, but I'm still a yuge Hetzner fan.
Same here - their compute pricing and performance were excellent value compared to the major cloud providers.
Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices
#113When has AWS done something like this? LB11 going from 20TB to 1TB for the same price is wild if you’d built a business on this platform.
Never. I don't think AWS have _ever_ icnreased prices.
They have, but usually it is via introducing additional fees to services/transactions, eg:
https://www.astuto.ai/blogs/understanding-the-aws-public-ipv... https://www.wiv.ai/navigating-the-rising-tide-of-aws-pricing...
Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices
#114I would think an auction system would be the best system to price bandwidth.
Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices
#115>Until this change, customers who have used fewer resources have covered the costs, in a way, for other customers who have used much more resources. So... raising the prices for everybody instead?
Yeah, the justification given makes absolutely no sense - you are paying more than before even if you stay under the new limit (which is 1/20th of the original!) They also use the word "tariff" several times without elaborating, as if the person who wrote the email doesn't know the actual meaning of the word. Seems like intentional deception to hide a standard "we just want more money" price raise.
"We just want more money" Is the standard operating procedure and the goal of all for-profit companies. How can hackers not understand this? Of course they will always want as much money as possible, and it is up to you as a customer to decide if their product is worth what they are asking or if you will go to a competitor.
Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices
#116Ahh, yes, the good old "here, you purchased X amount of things for $Z. But don't dare to use everything you paid for, or we double the price"
It’s not an individual customer thing. It’s a subsidy for early customers to get market share > raise prices.
Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices
#117I would think an auction system would be the best system to price bandwidth.
Theoretically would be cool. Basically you have a docker that can run anywhere and you automatically migrate it based on prices between different service providers. The issue is there isn't incentives for the cloud providers to do this, because it wouldn't benefit the incumbents.
Maybe if the government mandated it at some point, like phone number portability was mandated.
Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices
#118When has AWS done something like this? LB11 going from 20TB to 1TB for the same price is wild if you’d built a business on this platform.
Never. I don't think AWS have _ever_ icnreased prices.
I believe they have for very specific services, but never for things like EC2 or RDS.
There are also some EC2 instance classes where upgrading instance types in the same "size" are more expensive, but that is very rare, but I dont believe AWS has ever pulled the rug out from under you.
Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices
#119When has AWS done something like this? LB11 going from 20TB to 1TB for the same price is wild if you’d built a business on this platform.
It's easy to never raise prices if you have 1000% markup.
Re: Hetzner cuts traffic on US VPSs, raises prices
#120Wow. You literally cannot pay them 10 times the price to give you that much bandwidth now. If you were using 20TB they just don't want you as a customer anymore
Literally quoting billing support: "It is a privilege to have the right to be a Hetzner customer"