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Re: Claude AI built me a React app to compare maps side by side

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Post by azemetre » Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 6:03 PM UTC

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #103

rlty_chck wrote: post #96

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Every time I see claims like this, I instinctively click on the user's profile and try to verify if their story checks out. >I played around a lot with code when I was younger. I built my first site when I was 13 and had a good handle on Javascript back when jQuery was still a pipe dream. >Started with the Codecademy Ruby track which was pretty easy. Working through RailsTutorial right now. posted on April 15, 2015,…

you do know that there are other kinds of freelancing apart from coding, right?

I think the comment is fair. The poster came across as inexperienced with programming when in reality they have a decade plus experience.

I trust experience people can make better use of these tools because ideally they should have a foundation of first principles to work off of whereas inexperienced people jumping straight into LLMs may not be fully understanding what is happening or what they are given.

Re: Claude AI built me a React app to compare maps side by side

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Post by CtrlAltmanDel » Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 6:03 PM UTC

What a feat! There's at least 3 pages of google search results for the nearly same thing. The "prompt" I used in google.com is:

site:github.com map comparison

I guess the difference, is that my way uses dramatically less time and resources, but requires directly acknowledging the original coders instead of relying on the plagiarism-ish capabilities of reguritating something through an LLM.

Re: Claude AI built me a React app to compare maps side by side

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Post by jstummbillig » Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 6:10 PM UTC

hipadev23 wrote: post #59

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #25

I have about 6 months of coding experience. All I really knew was how to build a basic MERN app I’ve been using Sonnet 3.5 to code and I’ve managed to build multiple full fledged apps, including paid ones Maybe they’re not perfect, but they work and I’ve had no complaints yet. They might not scale to become the next Facebook, but not everything has to scale

Genuine question: Do you feel like you're learning the language/frameworks/techniques well? Or do you feel like you're just getting more adept at leveraging the LLM? Do you think you could you maintain and/or debug someone else's application?

The more important question that programmers, who are not product makers, often miss is: Are you solving real problems?

It's a slightly orthogonal way of thinking about this but if you are solving real problems, you get away with so much shit, it's unreal.

Maybe Google is not gonna let you code monkey on their monorepo, but you do not have to care. There's enough not-google in the world, and enough real problems.

Re: Claude AI built me a React app to compare maps side by side

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Post by conscion » Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 6:11 PM UTC

lucianbr wrote: post #67

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #25

I have about 6 months of coding experience. All I really knew was how to build a basic MERN app I’ve been using Sonnet 3.5 to code and I’ve managed to build multiple full fledged apps, including paid ones Maybe they’re not perfect, but they work and I’ve had no complaints yet. They might not scale to become the next Facebook, but not everything has to scale

I learned to drive before in-car GPS was widely available, at least where I lived. Going to some new place meant getting a map, looking at it, making a plan, following the plan, keeping track on the map, that sort of thing. Then I traveled somewhere new, for the first time, with GPS and a navigation sofware. It was quite impressive, and rather easier. I got to my destination the first time, without any problems. And…

> The 10th time, the 50th time, I still needed the GPS to guide me.

If anyone else is frustrated by this experience, I've found that changing the setting in Google Maps to have the map always point north has helped me with actually building a mental model of directions. I found instead of just following the line, it forced me to think about whether I'm going north, south, east, or west for each directions.

Re: Claude AI built me a React app to compare maps side by side

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Post by SoftTalker » Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 6:12 PM UTC

kenjackson wrote: post #94

lucianbr wrote: post #67

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I learned to drive before in-car GPS was widely available, at least where I lived. Going to some new place meant getting a map, looking at it, making a plan, following the plan, keeping track on the map, that sort of thing. Then I traveled somewhere new, for the first time, with GPS and a navigation sofware. It was quite impressive, and rather easier. I got to my destination the first time, without any problems. And…

After 50x? I use GPS too, but I definitely learn the route after a few times with it. There are probably a class of people who don’t ever learn it, but I feel like this has to be a minority.

It definitely takes me longer. Pre-GPS, I might need a map (or at least notes) to get somewhere, but then I could most likely find my way back on my own. Using GPS to get somewhere, I'd be lost trying to get back without it.

I think that because with a map you are looking at street signs/names, etc. both in advance to plan the route, and much more actively and intently while driving to figure out "do I turn here" and you just remember that stuff. Where as a GPS says "turn right at the next light" and you really don't remember any context around that.

Re: Claude AI built me a React app to compare maps side by side

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Post by imiric » Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 6:13 PM UTC

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #104

imiric wrote: post #71

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Good job, I suppose, but the existence of all of these, and the fact you're able to pump them out so quickly, is genuinely depressing.

Why is it depressing? I find it exhilarating I’m able to bring ideas to life that I could only think about before

Honestly? These were ideas that you put a lot of thought into?

All your sites are essentially wrappers around LLMs. You don't disclose which models or APIs you use in the backend, so did you train your own models, or are you proxying to an existing service? Your T&C and Privacy Policy is generic nonsense. What happens to the data your users upload?

ThumbnailGenius.com has an example thumbnail of a person with 4 fingers. I honestly can't tell the difference in the comparison between Midjourney, Dall-E and your fine-tuned models. MetHacker.io is not loading. GoUnfaked.com claims to have royalty and copyright-free images, which is highly misleading and possibly illegal. PlaybookFM.com is another effortless wrapper around NotebookLM or a similar LLM. TokenAI.dev is non-functional and seems like a crypto+AI scam.

I'm sorry to be so negative, but if you're going to leverage AI tools, at least put some thought and effort into creating something original that brings value to the world. I think you'll find this more rewarding than what you're doing now. Quality over quantity, and all that.

Re: Claude AI built me a React app to compare maps side by side

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Post by tokioyoyo » Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 6:17 PM UTC

eastbound wrote: post #79

dmd wrote: post #77

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I was told a similar thing when a mentor discovered I didn’t know how to wire-wrap my own CPU from scratch.

AI is much less reliable. Heck, it could go down like GPT went down in quality after the first 2 month: Services could in an instant become less good.

When there's demand, it will be made reliable through supply. Internet and connectivity weren't really that reliable either 20 years ago. I'm simplifying it heavily, but discarding AI's usefulness and how it lowers the barrier of empty isn't a good idea for the future.

Re: Claude AI built me a React app to compare maps side by side

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Post by smallerfish » Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 6:21 PM UTC

Claude is fantastic. I think the model itself is good enough to be able to write good software when competently directed; it's let down only by the UI/UX around it.

My only complaints are:

a) that it's really easy to hit the usage limit, especially when refactoring across a half dozen files. One thing that'd theoretically be easyish to fix would be automatically updating files in the project context (perhaps with an "accept"/"reject" prompt) so that the model knows what the latest version of your code is without having to reupload it constantly.

b) it oscillating between being lazy in really annoying ways (giving largeish code blocks with commented omissions partway through) and supplying the full file unnecessarily and using up your usage credits.

My hope is that Jetbrains give up on their own (pretty limited) LLM and partner with Anthropic to produce a super-tight IDE native integration.

Re: Claude AI built me a React app to compare maps side by side

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Post by elorant » Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

thefourthchime wrote: post #93

For years I've kept a list of apps / ideas / products I may do someday. I never made the time, with Cursor AI I have already built one, and am working on another. It's enabling me to use frameworks I barely know, like React Native, Swift, etc.. The first prompt (with o1) will get you 60% there, but then you have a different workflow. The prompts can get to a local minimum, where claude/gpt4/etc.. just can't do any be…

Good luck debugging it on production.

Re: Claude AI built me a React app to compare maps side by side

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Post by jstummbillig » Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

microtonal wrote: post #38

mmsc wrote: post #22

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Can you expand on what you mean by this, and why?

The best vulnerability is one that is hard to detect because it looks like a bug. It's not inconceivable to train an LLM to silently slip vulnerabilities in generated code. Someone who does not have a whole lot of programming experience is unlikely to detect it. tl;dr it takes running untrusted code to a new level.

Meh. Why would the model makers not be fantastic security vectors? The motivation to not be the company known to "silently slip vulnerabilities in generated code" seems fairly obvious.

People have always been able to slip in errors. I am confused why we assume that a LLM will on average not be better but worse on this front, and I suspect a lot of residual human-bias and copium.