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Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by noodlesUK »

cj wrote: post #86
xvedejas wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So when interviewing, perhaps I should skip more places that say citizenship required on the req, to avoid wasting my time?

No. Many (especially smaller) companies don't want to hire people who need visa sponsorship because it requires a decent amount of overhead. The company needs to have an immigration lawyer to prepare and submit paperwork, which many smaller companies don't want to bother with. FWIW it's illegal to require "US citizenship" in a job description. You can, however, say "eligible to work in the US". (The former would be d…

There are actually situations where U.S. citizenship can be a requirement, e.g., cleared jobs but there needs to be a really good reason like not being able to obtain clearances.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by alephnerd »

ulfw wrote: post #79

There are no jobs. I've been looking for two years. A couple of humongous rounds of interviews (one company in Sydney had me do 15 interviews plus a presentation, plus meetups with the CEO for lunch and the CTO and a case study), all for one mid-size startup CPO role. No hire. Two weeks later they announced another 25% of layoffs. I've tried and exhausted all my contacts, from work, Stanford alumni, everything. There…

There just aren't that many jobs for management roles (CPO/VP Product/etc) compared to applicants.

Being in HK probably isn't helping either because there are plenty of qualified candidates across China and ASEAN now as well - especially in the hospitality and B2C space.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by behringer »

shmatt wrote: post #14

I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…

You should probably stop breaking federal law.

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Post by zjdixhxjzkz »

niemandhier wrote: post #54
shmatt wrote: post #14

I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…

This will than probably change with the new American government and its anti-immigration stance. Less h1b, less ghost jobs.

Trumps has talked multiple times about “stapling green cards to diplomas”. His rhetoric on illegal immigration is going to result in illegals who have committed a felony being deported and that’s it (just like every other neocon).

Making America better for Americans won’t happen until both sides realize neither party is looking out for the interests of American people and uses social issues etc to keep us divided.

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Post by Applejinx »

niemandhier wrote: post #54
shmatt wrote: post #14

I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…

This will than probably change with the new American government and its anti-immigration stance. Less h1b, less ghost jobs.

I actually couldn't begin to guess. The only thing I have to go on is, I think the administration is angling to do a sort of bust-out rather than enrich anybody, even those 'on their side'. If that's so, then much like with the FDA, there'll be some funny choices that lead to alarming outcomes.

I just don't know whether that would mean more h1b and ghost jobs, or less.

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

cj wrote: post #66
indoordin0saur wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, this isn't clear to me. Are the interviewees citizens? So you're interviewing citizens to prove that there aren't any who can fill your jobs but even when they clearly could fill the job you don't hire them? Seems like the requirement of proving "there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job" is going to be near impossible for the government to enforce

At the last startup I worked at, our CTO was on a visa. To satisfy the "no one in the US can fill the CTO role", they took out an advertisement in a San Francisco newspaper classifieds so they had evidence that they attempted to find a US citizen / permanent resident CTO. Obviously there were no applicants.

CTO actually makes sense for an h1b though, it’s a high paying job that can depend greatly on the technical and creative skills of the individual and how they mesh with the company.

The problem is when it’s someone pumping out code, or doing tech support for half the cost of the local competition.

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Post by hombre_fatal »

xvedejas wrote: post #65
shmatt wrote: post #14

I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…

So when interviewing, perhaps I should skip more places that say citizenship required on the req, to avoid wasting my time?

No, because most places don't want to go through the hassle of sponsoring a visa.

Though once a place does want to go through the hassle, it seems to be the only kind of work they hire because they get a huge discount on labor. Of everyone I know IRL on work visas, almost all of them work in companies/teams that are 99% work visa.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by Iwan-Zotow »

cj wrote: post #86
xvedejas wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So when interviewing, perhaps I should skip more places that say citizenship required on the req, to avoid wasting my time?

No. Many (especially smaller) companies don't want to hire people who need visa sponsorship because it requires a decent amount of overhead. The company needs to have an immigration lawyer to prepare and submit paperwork, which many smaller companies don't want to bother with. FWIW it's illegal to require "US citizenship" in a job description. You can, however, say "eligible to work in the US". (The former would be d…

> FWIW it's illegal to require "US citizenship" in a job description.

nonsense

tons of jobs advertisements required "US citizenship", because there is a security clearance attached

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Post by petesergeant »

As anecdata, I’ve worked in recruitment, both as a recruiter and as CTO of a very well-established recruitech firm, and basically have never heard of this outside of people complaining they think it happens. Posting jobs you already know who you want to hire for it, sure, but the signalling success and luring in candidates for later thing wasn’t really something I saw. To me, it feels like when people used to claim that antivirus firms were the ones writing viruses.
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