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Re: Meta Permits Its A.I. Models to Be Used for U.S. Military Purposes

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Post by Paradigma11 » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 2:28 AM UTC

nielsbot wrote: post #85

largbae wrote: post #52

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HN has a multinational audience, but for those in the US, do you really want our best and brightest to shun defense while other nations' best and brightest double down? If so, what is the outcome that you would like to see from that policy?

If it's just "defense", then what's the problem? But it's not defense, is it? It's for policing the world... I think we should do less of that.

We are in a multipolar world and the US is just one of many players. That is not policing, that is just normal behavior. What do you think Russia or China are doing in Africa?

Have fun trying to run a modern economy when your adversaries are blocking your vital resource imports and export markets.

Re: Meta Permits Its A.I. Models to Be Used for U.S. Military Purposes

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Post by Jerrrrrrry » Wed, Nov 06, 2024, 8:57 AM UTC

jmward01 wrote: post #73

Jerrrrrrry wrote: post #49

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Thanks for pointing that out. I think this clearly shows the difference between 'allowing use' and 'supporting a use case' when it comes to bio-tech. Vaccinating a soldier is allowing use, creating a biological weapon is supporting a use case. I wouldn't want to work for a bio weapons manufacturer but working for a vaccine maker would be just fine with me even if my efforts were used by the military.

Lol I love how you were sincere (seemingly) and I still got negged and flagged

Re: Meta Permits Its A.I. Models to Be Used for U.S. Military Purposes

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Post by yunwal » Thu, Nov 07, 2024, 2:51 AM UTC

dumpsterdiver wrote: post #102

yunwal wrote: post #51

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“Never” is definitely an exaggeration https://djmag.com/news/sxsw-cuts-ties-us-army-and-weapons-ma...

Oh right, we can’t forget about the massively popular “Squirrel Flower” movement (rolls eyes).

Sxsw has banned the defense industry from sponsoring the festival in 2025. It’s a pretty big festival.

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Post by jowea » Sun, Nov 10, 2024, 2:56 AM UTC

epistasis wrote: post #100

jowea wrote: post #90

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There's been a big controversy over training AI on copyleft code hosted on places like GitHub and generating code which could be interpreted as a derivative work.

I have not heard discussion of that, but trying to reconstruct what it would be my guess is: AI companies with closed, non-distributed models in the clear with the GPL (but not AGPL code). But Meta would not be able to distribute their weights without also distributing the GPL code with it that went into the training? Is the controversy that it "linked" all the other source code that the model was also trained with a…

Random article about the topic: https://fossa.com/blog/generative-ai-and-software-developmen...

> All the while, there’s been debate about whether engineering teams that use generative AI are at risk of violating open source software licensing requirements. (Generative AI tools train, in part, on open source libraries, which leads to questions about whether generative AI output is subject to the same licenses as the training material.)