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Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality than sleep duration (2023)

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Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality than sleep duration (2023)

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post #69

I think a “correlation is not causation” cautionary note is important here - there are a lot of things that cause fragmented sleep, and also cause death. Stress and underlying disease are two obvious ones.

"Finally, we acknowledge the correlational nature of our findings. Sleep regularity may be both a cause and marker of premature mortality risk."

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality than sleep duration (2023)

#113
post #13

> We aimed to assess the relationship of objectively measured sleep regularity with risk for all-cause mortality, and mortality from cardiometabolic causes and cancer, in a large cohort (N = 60 977) who wore accelerometer devices for 1 week. They look at one week of sleep data and then check mortality records about 10 to 15 years later. It's hard to argue a causative effect between one week of bad sleep and death pot…

"Obviously there's an implication that people with terrible sleep regularity in that one week snapshot had terrible sleep regularity chronically, which in turn had a causative effect on mortality" You got it. "but we have to make a couple of deductive jumps to get to that conclusion" This is always the case unless you assume reality is as big as what you can perceive. "I'd really like to see the same study with longe…

It is easy to say that good quality sleep is good for a person. But what if I literally never get that type of sleep. What should I do? How concerned should I be? How much focus and effort should I put into this? Should I take the Ambien I'm prescribed or should I try to go for the best natural path - because I really, really don't have good experience with Ambien. And it's almost like it's the best modern medicine can offer.

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality than sleep duration (2023)

#114
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On my days off, I can sleep 12 hours if I don't set an alarm. And I could easily do more, if I didn't force myself out of bed.

Amazing! Without Advil PM I can’t sleep more than 7. Really goes to show how diverse sleep habits/requirements are from person to person.

Hah, I blame my job. Different shift every few days, always tired.

I'd love to try a fixed sleep schedule, but sometimes I don't get home until 2am, other times I have to get up at 7:30am.

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality than sleep duration (2023)

#115
post #3

Great, another source of anxiety to make it harder to maintain a consistent sleep schedule.

I know this will not help you, but stressing about sleep is a vicious cycle which does not help.

I used to be much more anxious about sleep — and life in general — but I have leaned that if I don’t sleep that is fine. Life goes on, the body gets what the body needs, and I should focus on living instead of sleeping.

Being active, spending time with friends, going outside for walks, laughing, and taking the world as it comes to me has done more for my sleep than reading studies or buying stuff (outside of a tempurpedic matress and solid oak frame).

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality than sleep duration (2023)

#116
post #87

I found the best way to ensure sleep regularity is by having a fixed wake-up time. If you don’t have one and you begin to set your alarm clock to early hours, the first weeks doing so will feel like hell. But eventually all will be worth it. The sleepiness during the day will disappear and, at night, your body will naturally want to get some rest early. Another strategy is to fill your day with deep work and exercise…

for me the best way is to not worry about sleep at all. After many decades of abusive relationship with sleep. I've had enough. If it comes it comes, if not then thats ok too.

I stop reading this 8 hr nonsense or fearing an early death from not sleeping. whatever.

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality than sleep duration (2023)

#117
post #87

I found the best way to ensure sleep regularity is by having a fixed wake-up time. If you don’t have one and you begin to set your alarm clock to early hours, the first weeks doing so will feel like hell. But eventually all will be worth it. The sleepiness during the day will disappear and, at night, your body will naturally want to get some rest early. Another strategy is to fill your day with deep work and exercise…

I did that for years with jobs that required it and didn’t find that worked for me.

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Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality than sleep duration (2023)

#118
post #12

One of the best things I ever did was start going to bed and waking up at roughly the same time every day regardless of weekend or weekday.

in what ways was it one of the best things?

I wake up feeling rested everyday around the same time without an alarm. I also go to sleep fairly easily.

The yo yo of late weekends and spending part of the week trying to get back to an earlier time left me tired much of the time.

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality than sleep duration (2023)

#119
Oh man I took my sleep for granted last month, have been working late and waking up at strange times. Sometimes sleep at 3 am and wake up at 7am then sleep at 11pm and wake up at 6am. Eventually my body totally crashed, interestingly I had a panic attack and heart attack type symptoms at 2am in the morning. Had to rush to ER.

Re: Sleep regularity is a stronger predictor of mortality than sleep duration (2023)

#120
post #87

I found the best way to ensure sleep regularity is by having a fixed wake-up time. If you don’t have one and you begin to set your alarm clock to early hours, the first weeks doing so will feel like hell. But eventually all will be worth it. The sleepiness during the day will disappear and, at night, your body will naturally want to get some rest early. Another strategy is to fill your day with deep work and exercise…

what helped me was to use an alarm clock.

but to go to sleep!

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