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Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by szundi »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #109
mmaunder wrote: post #108

History has shown being first to market isn't all it's cut out to be. You spend more, it's more difficult creating the trail others will follow, you end up with a tech stack that was built before tools and patterns stabilized and you've created a giant super highway for a fast-follower. Anyone remember MapQuest, AltaVista or Hotmail? OpenAI has some very serious competition now. When you combine that with the recent…

Claude is better than OpenAI for most tasks, and yet OpenAI has enormously more users. What is this, if not first mover advantage?

Claude cannot “research” stuff on the web and provide results like 4o does in 5 secs like “which is the cheapest Skoda car and how much”

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by szundi »

campbel wrote: post #3

This is pretty exciting. I'm a copilot user at work, but also have access to Claude. I'm more inclined to use Claude for difficult coding problems or to review my work as I've just grown more confident in its abilities over the last several months.

Switch to Cursor with Claude backend and 5x immediately

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by [deleted] »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #109
mmaunder wrote: post #108

History has shown being first to market isn't all it's cut out to be. You spend more, it's more difficult creating the trail others will follow, you end up with a tech stack that was built before tools and patterns stabilized and you've created a giant super highway for a fast-follower. Anyone remember MapQuest, AltaVista or Hotmail? OpenAI has some very serious competition now. When you combine that with the recent…

Claude is better than OpenAI for most tasks, and yet OpenAI has enormously more users. What is this, if not first mover advantage?

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Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by state_less »

gonab wrote: post #55
dartos wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, Claude consistently impresses me. A commenter on another thread mentioned it but it’s very similar to how search felt in the early 2000s. I ask it a question and get my answer. Sometimes it’s a little (or a lot) wrong or outdated, but at least I get something to tinker with.

Conversely I feel that the experience of searching has been degraded by a lot since 2016/17. My these is that, at this time, online spam increased by an order of magnitude

Old style Google search is dead, folks just haven’t closed the casket yet. My index queries are down ~90%. In the future, we’ll look back at LLMs as a major turning point in how people retrieve and consume information.

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by mmaunder »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #109
mmaunder wrote: post #108

History has shown being first to market isn't all it's cut out to be. You spend more, it's more difficult creating the trail others will follow, you end up with a tech stack that was built before tools and patterns stabilized and you've created a giant super highway for a fast-follower. Anyone remember MapQuest, AltaVista or Hotmail? OpenAI has some very serious competition now. When you combine that with the recent…

Claude is better than OpenAI for most tasks, and yet OpenAI has enormously more users. What is this, if not first mover advantage?

Yes, muscle memory is powerful. But it's not an insurmountable barrier for a follower. The switch from Google to various AI apps like Perplexity being a case in point. I still find myself beginning to reach for Google and then 0.1 seconds later catching myself. As a side note: I'm also catching myself having a lack of imagination when it comes to what is solvable. e.g. I had a specific technical question about github's UX and how to get to a thing that no one would have written about and thus Google wouldn't know, but openAI chat nailed it first try.

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by hbn »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #109
mmaunder wrote: post #108

History has shown being first to market isn't all it's cut out to be. You spend more, it's more difficult creating the trail others will follow, you end up with a tech stack that was built before tools and patterns stabilized and you've created a giant super highway for a fast-follower. Anyone remember MapQuest, AltaVista or Hotmail? OpenAI has some very serious competition now. When you combine that with the recent…

Claude is better than OpenAI for most tasks, and yet OpenAI has enormously more users. What is this, if not first mover advantage?

Most people's first exposure to LLMs was ChatGPT, and that was only what - like 18 months ago it really took off in the mainstream? We're still very early on in the grand scheme of things.

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by sqs »

dgellow wrote: post #85

I’ve been using Cody from Sourcegraph to have access to other models, if copilot offers something similar I guess I will switch back to it. I find copilot autocomplete to be more often on point than Cody, but the chat experience with Cody + Sonnet 3.5 is way ahead in may experience

Context is a huge part of the chat experience in Cody, and we're working hard to stay ahead there as well with things like OpenCtx (https://openctx.org) and more code context based on the code graph (defs/refs/etc.). All this competition is good for everyone. :)

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by jedberg »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #109
mmaunder wrote: post #108

History has shown being first to market isn't all it's cut out to be. You spend more, it's more difficult creating the trail others will follow, you end up with a tech stack that was built before tools and patterns stabilized and you've created a giant super highway for a fast-follower. Anyone remember MapQuest, AltaVista or Hotmail? OpenAI has some very serious competition now. When you combine that with the recent…

Claude is better than OpenAI for most tasks, and yet OpenAI has enormously more users. What is this, if not first mover advantage?

Claude requires a login, ChatGPT does not.

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by nabla9 »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #109
mmaunder wrote: post #108

History has shown being first to market isn't all it's cut out to be. You spend more, it's more difficult creating the trail others will follow, you end up with a tech stack that was built before tools and patterns stabilized and you've created a giant super highway for a fast-follower. Anyone remember MapQuest, AltaVista or Hotmail? OpenAI has some very serious competition now. When you combine that with the recent…

Claude is better than OpenAI for most tasks, and yet OpenAI has enormously more users. What is this, if not first mover advantage?

It's a short lived first mover advantage.

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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Post by fhdsgbbcaA »

dartos wrote: post #51
rnmaker wrote: post #32

If you want to destroy open source completely, the more models the better. Microsoft's co-opting and infiltration of OSS projects will serve as a textbook example of eliminating competition in MBA programs. And people still support it by uploading to GitHub.

> And people still support it by uploading to GitHub. It’s slowly, but noticeably moving from GitHub to other sites. The network effect is hard to work against.

Migration is on my todo list, but it’s non trivial enough I’m not sure when I’ll ever have cycles to even figure out the best option. Gitlab? Self-hosted Git? Go back to SVN? A totally different platform?

Truth be told, Git is a major pain in the ass anyway and I’m very open to something else.

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