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Re: You-get: Dumb downloader that scrapes the web

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

andai wrote: post #41

For a while I had expensive internet and low bandwidth, but I loved listening to music and lectures on YouTube. At some point I realized that getting only the audio stream would save me 90% in bandwidth costs. [0] youtube-dl (and yt-dlp) has a flag, I believe -G, which gives you the URL(s) for the requested format/quality. I used the command line on my computer and put the link in VLC. On my phone I had this elaborat…

When I use NNCP [1] on flights to download Youtube videos, the script I wrote to nncp-exec the download accepts a quality friendly name. I have a specific friendly name which gets the lowest quality video and mid-tier audio. These settings usually result in a pretty enjoyable experience and offer plenty of entertainment even on a longer flight.

[1]: http://www.nncpgo.org/

Re: You-get: Dumb downloader that scrapes the web

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Post by fnoobnar »

khaki54 wrote: post #69
fnoobnar wrote: post #68

I’m not sure I understand why Bandcamp is on the list of supported sites: they allow you to just download the files on the condition you first pay the artist for them. The fact you can download it with this tool is because the artist is letting you listen to it for free before buying it. Downloading it with this tool seems totally unnecessary and a bit of a jerk move. Bandcamp hosts mostly small and independent artis…

I presume you could subscribe and still use this tool? People use automation tools like this to download things that they already pay for because it saves them the effort of logging into 5 different apps depending on which walled garden it's in.

It’s Bandcamp: you buy the album and they give you a link to download it in whatever format you want so you can listen to it using whatever app or device you wish. You can come back later and download it as many times as you like.

Re: You-get: Dumb downloader that scrapes the web

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Post by ipsum2 »

xg15 wrote: post #48
grugagag wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you infer better than yt-dlp? I think the more the better when it comes to this space as google fights back.

But some information what the differences to ytdlp are and what the reasons for starting an entirely new project were, would still be helpful. (Also, a multitude of tools isn't really all that helpful if they all stop working in the same instant because they all relied on the same APIs etc)

> starting an entirely new project were

The project was started in 2012, long before yt-dlp (but not before youtube-dl)

Re: You-get: Dumb downloader that scrapes the web

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Post by raffraffraff »

Almondsetat wrote: post #110
hollandheese wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why not just download the mp3 then?

From where?

I think the point here is that you can run `yt-dlp --extract-audio --audio-format mp3` instead of saving as .m4a (a lossy compression) and then covering that to .mp3 (another very different lossy compression).

Under the hood, there's probably an additional lossy conversion. I'm not sure if YouTube converts uploaded videos to specific formats but if they do, then the worst case scenario is:

- original uploaded video uses .ogg audio

- YouTube converts that to opus and puts it into a container format (wbem?)

- You download the video and extract the audio to .m4a using yt-dlp

- and then you convert that to .mp3 using ffmpeg

That's 4 consecutive lossy formats, each one throwing away different data.

Honestly the best thing to do here is use yt-dlp to download whatever format YouTube provides and use ffprobe to find out what audio format is already there. Then do one conversation if required.

Re: You-get: Dumb downloader that scrapes the web

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Post by dgan »

soheil wrote: post #100
andai wrote: post #41

For a while I had expensive internet and low bandwidth, but I loved listening to music and lectures on YouTube. At some point I realized that getting only the audio stream would save me 90% in bandwidth costs. [0] youtube-dl (and yt-dlp) has a flag, I believe -G, which gives you the URL(s) for the requested format/quality. I used the command line on my computer and put the link in VLC. On my phone I had this elaborat…

I often choose 144p for low bandwidth scenarios. It is very similar to a good quality audio-only stream in terms of size, but you get the added benefit of looking at the speaker even if that's a glance every 45 mins. Same for battery life, you save that too. Also 144p is somehow so peaceful and relaxing to watch, you don't get distracted with all the shiny colors and intricate details in the video and can just listen…

Me too, i don't enjoy observing people's pimples on the nose

Re: You-get: Dumb downloader that scrapes the web

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Post by tirpen »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #49
andai wrote: post #41

For a while I had expensive internet and low bandwidth, but I loved listening to music and lectures on YouTube. At some point I realized that getting only the audio stream would save me 90% in bandwidth costs. [0] youtube-dl (and yt-dlp) has a flag, I believe -G, which gives you the URL(s) for the requested format/quality. I used the command line on my computer and put the link in VLC. On my phone I had this elaborat…

BTW if you browse YouTube with Firefox browser on Android you can play back YouTube videos with the screen locked using background player fix extension.

That works fine without any extensions at all, so I'm unsure what does the extension even does?

Re: You-get: Dumb downloader that scrapes the web

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Post by latexr »

newaccount74 wrote: post #74
latexr wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If they cannot construct a failing test then it's either too hard to mock or reproduce (…), or it's impossible because it's not a bug. Or, you know, the user is not a developer. Or is unfamiliar with Python, or their test suite, or git, or… It is perfectly possible to be good at reporting bugs but be incapable of submitting pull requests.

The problem with popular tools is that they have more bugs that can be fixed. So bug reports are pretty much worthless: You know that there are 1000 bugs out there, but you only have resources to fix 10 of them. By asking users to provide reproducible test cases, you can massively reduce the amount of work you have to do. Of course that means 90% of bugs will never be reported. But since you don't have the resources…

You missed the point entirely.

It’s your prerogative if and how you want to limit the amount of people who can contribute, but I was explicitly replying to someone claiming that a person’s inability to code is in any way related to the validity or importance of the bug.

Re: You-get: Dumb downloader that scrapes the web

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Post by Gormo »

dredmorbius wrote: post #76
andai wrote: post #41

For a while I had expensive internet and low bandwidth, but I loved listening to music and lectures on YouTube. At some point I realized that getting only the audio stream would save me 90% in bandwidth costs. [0] youtube-dl (and yt-dlp) has a flag, I believe -G, which gives you the URL(s) for the requested format/quality. I used the command line on my computer and put the link in VLC. On my phone I had this elaborat…

mpv similarly has this option. I listen to far more videos than I watch . https://mpv.io/ >

MPV is just passing the stream selection arguments over to youtube-dl/yt-dlp.

Re: You-get: Dumb downloader that scrapes the web

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Post by Gormo »

raffraffraff wrote: post #114
Almondsetat wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From where?

I think the point here is that you can run `yt-dlp --extract-audio --audio-format mp3` instead of saving as .m4a (a lossy compression) and then covering that to .mp3 (another very different lossy compression). Under the hood, there's probably an additional lossy conversion. I'm not sure if YouTube converts uploaded videos to specific formats but if they do, then the worst case scenario is: - original uploaded video u…

I usually just extract the raw Opus audio, then run it through Picard to tag and save it in my music directory. I don't see any point in converting to MP3 these days -- Opus provides better audio quality at the same bitrate (or, equivalently, lower file sizes for the same audio quality), and pretty much all player software supports it now. I've actually been going the other way and converting most of my music library to Opus and getting rid of MP3s.
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