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Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by mmh0000 »

freedomben wrote: post #59
mmh0000 wrote: post #40

I want to like it... But, I've been bitten too many times by expensive Linux phones (Oh Nokia N900, how I wanted to love you. but you couldn't even make phone calls without threatening to crash). It's a little weird that there are very few details on this thing. Notably, one of my #1 concerns when looking for a new phone today is a good camera. And all I can find on the camera is "it's 50MP!!! " But how do actual, no…

> It also seems to be "weird" Linux, like Maemo was for the N900. I don't want weird, custom-built stuff that will be forgotten about in 12 months. Just give me a standard Debain/Fedora/Whatever and an unlocked bootloader to reinstall with what I want. I wouldn't say it's a "weird Linux as it's mostly Debian and it's fully rebuildable by the user from the open source scripts[1]. I would likewise love a phone that was…

To be fair (insert meme here)

Maemo was "mostly Debian" as well, it was one of the big selling points. Except Maemo was quickly abandoned by Nokia and left unmaintained. To further complicate matters Maemo required arcane tools to build it and install it to a device. Custom community kernels quickly became standard for enabling basic functionality which Nokia should have provided, but, didn't. However, the custom kernels were also frequently left unpatched and abandoned because they were being built and maintained by random internet users who found other hobbies.

I think the idea is awesome and I am excited if not skeptical. I hope Furi manages to build a healthy community around this. And doesn't go the path of so many previous Linux phones.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by ninetyninenine »

auguzanellato wrote: post #66
ninetyninenine wrote: post #43

What I want is quality to the level of flagship android phones or the iphone with the ability to plug it in to a keyboard, mouse and screen and have it function as my laptop as well. One single integrated experience. I think everyone wants this. We have the technology we have the demand, it's just companies who make the high quality phones want to completely lock down the market. You would think the free market would…

Asus did that in 2011 with the PadFone, it was an Android mobile phone that you could plug into the provided tabled and then plug a keyboard into that.

Yeah but it wasn't quality right? I mean the both modes need to have a UX on par with a regular laptop and a high quality phone.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by GranPC »

bsimpson wrote: post #82

It's surprising to me that there aren't any details about the software stack. Whenever I've tried to find a touch-optimized Linux shell, I've come up short. As has been discussed on this forum in the past, most of the attempts are understaffed side projects that have thousands of manhours of work ahead of them. I'd like to know what shell FuriOS is based on, and what they're doing to make it usable. Even a demo video…

I'll write something in the dev blog, thanks. We use Phosh, with some minor patches. Upstream Phosh is pretty good as it is!

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by Frenchgeek »

ninetyninenine wrote: post #43

What I want is quality to the level of flagship android phones or the iphone with the ability to plug it in to a keyboard, mouse and screen and have it function as my laptop as well. One single integrated experience. I think everyone wants this. We have the technology we have the demand, it's just companies who make the high quality phones want to completely lock down the market. You would think the free market would…

I can do something not unlike that with the second-hand displaylink adapter I currently have gathering dust... I would just need to install a desktop environment on termux for it to be complete (not sure if I could get 3D acceleration with this). The only real problem there is the adapter I have cannot charge the phone while connected.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by fsflover »

ninetyninenine wrote: post #43

What I want is quality to the level of flagship android phones or the iphone with the ability to plug it in to a keyboard, mouse and screen and have it function as my laptop as well. One single integrated experience. I think everyone wants this. We have the technology we have the demand, it's just companies who make the high quality phones want to completely lock down the market. You would think the free market would…

> What I want is quality to the level of flagship android phones or the iphone with the ability to plug it in to a keyboard, mouse and screen and have it function as my laptop as well. > > One single integrated experience.

Purism achieved that with their Librem 5 phone [0]. However having a polished experience like with iPhone requires to invest billions in software. It can be used as a daily driver [1] but there's a lot to improve yet. Sent from my Librem 5.

[0] https://puri.sm/posts/converging-on-convergence-pureos-is-co...

[1] https://puri.sm/posts/my-first-year-of-librem-5-convergence/

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by cuu508 »

auguzanellato wrote: post #66
ninetyninenine wrote: post #43

What I want is quality to the level of flagship android phones or the iphone with the ability to plug it in to a keyboard, mouse and screen and have it function as my laptop as well. One single integrated experience. I think everyone wants this. We have the technology we have the demand, it's just companies who make the high quality phones want to completely lock down the market. You would think the free market would…

Asus did that in 2011 with the PadFone, it was an Android mobile phone that you could plug into the provided tabled and then plug a keyboard into that.

There was also Motorola Atrix in 2011 with similar idea.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by MisterTea »

whyowhy3484939 wrote: post #69
ninetyninenine wrote: post #43

What I want is quality to the level of flagship android phones or the iphone with the ability to plug it in to a keyboard, mouse and screen and have it function as my laptop as well. One single integrated experience. I think everyone wants this. We have the technology we have the demand, it's just companies who make the high quality phones want to completely lock down the market. You would think the free market would…

> I think everyone wants this. You asked for it. I don't want that. I don't want an "integrated experience" and "flagship quality". The first sounds juvenile and the second sounds unnecessarily expensive and probably containing shit I don't need, like fancy cameras to look good on my nonexistent socials. What I want is a simple, slow, old, efficient, simple phone with the interface of an 80s era 8bit computer that ca…

I half agree. I dont need the bullshit bells and whistles. However a good camera doesn't mean you want to post on instagram or tiktok - maybe you just want a memory of a trip you went on or technical detail of something you want to document. People took pictures before social media.

Most every phone can already do what we want but the hardware is undocumented or locked behind NDA and the firmware is hostile. Without those locks the gigacorps cant keep you in the data-mining garden. We wont have open phones until this thinking changes. Keep dreaming until then.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by fsflover »

riversflow wrote: post #62
ninetyninenine wrote: post #43

What I want is quality to the level of flagship android phones or the iphone with the ability to plug it in to a keyboard, mouse and screen and have it function as my laptop as well. One single integrated experience. I think everyone wants this. We have the technology we have the demand, it's just companies who make the high quality phones want to completely lock down the market. You would think the free market would…

> One single integrated experience. I think everyone wants this This is insane to me. Like not just no. Hell no. I want my phone to be a gadget, like a watch, not a whole ass computer. I want my tablet to be its own thing from my laptop, which is different from my PC(s). I absolutely, positively do NOT want general purpose computing to be the typical paradigm. I don’t want, need, or even like the idea of my phone, th…

> I want my tablet to be its own thing from my laptop, which is different from my PC(s).

But what's the point in owning three devices when you can own one doing everything? How about in addition an mp3 player, a camera and a flashlight, too?

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