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Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

bee_rider wrote: post #104
josephg wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree. The web wouldn't be anywhere near as successful if you needed to trust & "install" websites before you could visit them. How does that work? Why don't you need to install / trust a website to use it? Well, because it has this kind of security model. Websites are sandboxed. The web's sandboxed security model makes it better for users. And that in turn drives popularity. I think the same could be true for a g…

Sandboxing has to be the funniest bit of wordplay anyone has ever made in tech. Sand is, of course, notoriously impossible to contain and never stays in the box. And it is not nearly as clever as an attacker!

The term doesn't come from the idea of containing sand.

It comes from things built for children to play in that have an edge with contents inside it. You play "in a sandbox" without having to deal with anything outside of the sandbox.

The sand in a children's sandbox spills over and gets everywhere. The children playing inside it .. they don't have to care. They are playing inside the sandbox, and for now, the world outside it is not relevant.

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

IshKebab wrote: post #47
dustedcodes wrote: post #25

Why does it matter if it’s written in Rust?

Projects written in Rust tend to be very fast - as fast as C++ or C code - but without the endless security issues. You may as well ask "why does it matter if this bridge is made of iron".

There are long lasting bridges made of stone, concrete and in the right climates, even wood. Not to mention rope when it suits the purpose.

Each material has its own qualities, which means its own pros and cons in a given context.

This naive belief that there will be one language to rule them all (and is name is ignores history and the world outside of programming in a rather silly way.

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #110
A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #95

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Agreed. Honestly, wasn't the whole purpose of open source to be kinda free for all ( the followers, the inventors, the grinders... you name it ). Why does everything I read lately start with a 'should'. I am making a mental note to self.

Try replacing "should" with "wouldn't it make more of a positive change in the world if" and see how that leaves you feeling.

The problem is that we all vastly differ on what constitutes a positive change. I can practically guarantee you that you are somewhat unlikely to see changes I would suggest as 'positive'. On the other hand, it is not unlikely I would see yours as positive either.

That is why, for all its flaws ( and current set of issues ), current attempt at self-organization is simply better in the long run even if it is a little messy.

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by kibibu »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #111
bee_rider wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sandboxing has to be the funniest bit of wordplay anyone has ever made in tech. Sand is, of course, notoriously impossible to contain and never stays in the box. And it is not nearly as clever as an attacker!

The term doesn't come from the idea of containing sand. It comes from things built for children to play in that have an edge with contents inside it. You play "in a sandbox" without having to deal with anything outside of the sandbox. The sand in a children's sandbox spills over and gets everywhere. The children playing inside it .. they don't have to care. They are playing inside the sandbox, and for now, the world…

> You play "in a sandbox" without having to deal with anything outside of the sandbox

I mean, besides "gifts" from the neighbourhood cats. How do they fit into the metaphor?

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by DaSHacka »

opem wrote: post #73

It's true that the complexity of these kinda projects are enormous, but considering chrome/webkit's monopoly in the browser space, I feel we should always welcome and appreciate alternative efforts...regardless of the project's outcome. P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :)

> P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :)

The first half of this post reeks of GPT-ness as well, that was the first thing I noticed.

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by mega_dean »

afavour wrote: post #78
serf wrote: post #76

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>P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :) certainly some reasoning would be more constructive than a smiley face, because I looked at the website, I looked at the logo[0] - I didn't share the same feeling. Certainly it could be AI generated, but why 'sketchy'? Is it something to do with your own personal feelings on AI use, or just the aesthetic in general? I g…

Just a personal perspective… no problem with the logo but the headline “The Gateway to Optimized Search and Unlimited Browsing” Doesn’t really mean anything to me and does sound vaguely scammy. Anyone promising me the gateway to unlimited anything gets a raised eyebrow, two if it’s something I already have unlimited access to.

I don't think that's meant to be taken seriously/literally - seems like a tongue-in-cheek acronym for "GOSUB".

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by josephg »

bee_rider wrote: post #104
josephg wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree. The web wouldn't be anywhere near as successful if you needed to trust & "install" websites before you could visit them. How does that work? Why don't you need to install / trust a website to use it? Well, because it has this kind of security model. Websites are sandboxed. The web's sandboxed security model makes it better for users. And that in turn drives popularity. I think the same could be true for a g…

Sandboxing has to be the funniest bit of wordplay anyone has ever made in tech. Sand is, of course, notoriously impossible to contain and never stays in the box. And it is not nearly as clever as an attacker!

Hah true!

My girlfriend has strong opinions about how we use the word "library" to describe a software package.

Surely the metaphor should be that one package is a "book" and the entire package repository is the library, right? Left pad is an entire library? Huh?

And then we have no collective noun for collections of libraries!

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by bee_rider »

josephg wrote: post #118
bee_rider wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sandboxing has to be the funniest bit of wordplay anyone has ever made in tech. Sand is, of course, notoriously impossible to contain and never stays in the box. And it is not nearly as clever as an attacker!

Hah true! My girlfriend has strong opinions about how we use the word "library" to describe a software package. Surely the metaphor should be that one package is a "book" and the entire package repository is the library, right? Left pad is an entire library? Huh? And then we have no collective noun for collections of libraries!

So then a function or subroutine or whatever could be a chapter? I’d be down for that I think.

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by vrighter »

sharktheone wrote: post #86
opem wrote: post #80

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> I don't know if it is a compliment that my website design skills match the ones of AI or if it is more an insult Neither, it has nothing to do with design. I just wanted to point out that putting an AI generated logo, and writing vague statements like "optimised search and unlimited browsing" seems unprofessional to me.

The "optimised search and unlimited browsing" isn't really a statement, it is the expanded form of the acronym gosub. As I said, I don't really like it, but this is what we have now... :/ But I can definitely see where you are coming from.

if you don't like it. And people are also telling you they don't like it, then why do you insist on having it be an acronym?
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