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Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by alexr243 »

dcchambers wrote: post #22

From a performance and technical perspective this is incredible. Well done! It will never happen, but my dream is for the Asahi devs, Valve, and Apple to all get together to build out a cross-platform Proton to emulate and play games built for Windows on both x86 and ARM hardware running Linux. A Steam Deck with the performance and power efficiency of an M-series ARM chip and the entire library of games that run on P…

You can play windows game with this release in Asahi Linux! So it is possible now

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by fl0id »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #100

It is shocking the effort required to have a good gaming experience on Apple computers (excluding iOS). They always struck me as agnostic to games, yet in recent years it appears to border on open hostility.

They made gameportingkit, which got made into whisky app. So not totally hostile

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by fl0id »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #99
GeekyBear wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Game emulation isn't a Linux only thing.

Is there a way to run Control or Cyberpunk on macOS?

Yes. Haven’t tried those games, but on apple silicon whisky app emulates with gameporting toolkit + wine/proton. For intel silicon I think it was also possible but not sure.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by fl0id »

spease wrote: post #33
zdragnar wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question was "better on Linux on a Mac ", meaning specifically Asahi Linux. The correct answer is no, not yet anyway. Linux running on x86 with proton is still the bee's knees for most games though.

> on a Mac Right. It sounds like the Asahi devs have implemented APIs which aren’t available under stock MacOS. Back when I was actively developing for Freespace, we had a Linux port that had a better framerate than Windows (the game’s original platform).

Afaik they are emulating, which you can do on macOS too. Still great that it works with Linux

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by fl0id »

dcchambers wrote: post #102
wtallis wrote: post #80

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Apple already provides their Game Porting Toolkit which includes a D3D12 to Metal translation later for Wine, and it has been integrated into user-friendly Wine distributions like Crossover since last year. There's not much Proton has to offer over what's already available.

My understanding about the game porting toolkit is that it requires developers to specifically modify their game in order to make their game compatible. The magic of Proton from a consumer point of view is that it just works for basically every game, sans those with Kernel-level anticheat stuff. This means thousands of old games that haven't been updated in years will work.any games that don't have active developers.…

There is things like whisky app which makes it a more general thing like proton

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

fl0id wrote: post #113
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a way to run Control or Cyberpunk on macOS?

Yes. Haven’t tried those games, but on apple silicon whisky app emulates with gameporting toolkit + wine/proton. For intel silicon I think it was also possible but not sure.

Oh, wow, I did not realize how many games worked with this:

https://docs.getwhisky.app/game-support/index.html

I had assumed the lack of Vulkan on macOS was a major issue. Apparently not!

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by talldayo »

whimsicalism wrote: post #107
talldayo wrote: post #95

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> AFAICT, the Linux side is making progress, but still more games can be run from macOS. I don't believe that's true. According to ProtonDB, 80% of the top-1000 most-played games on Steam are confirmed working on Linux: https://www.protondb.com/dashboard I haven't seen any source documenting nearly similar success rates with Mac but I also haven't seriously tried gaming on Apple Silicon.

steam deck is x86

What a coincidence! So are a variety of Macs that shipped with hardware supporting Linux and Vulkan on day 1.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by fl0id »

whimsicalism wrote: post #105
zarathustreal wrote: post #68

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honestly with chatgpt i don’t think not learning can really be an excuse anymore. not saying have it write the code, but just recursively asking for explanations and resources can get you up to speed on tons of things

Yeah good luck with that in systems programming or anything complex. You’re not gonna get far.
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