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The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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As an Aussie I get a kick out of seeing Australianisms get picked up in the global vernacular. No worries seems to be increasing common outside of Australia, and cooked (to describe something that's fucked up) also seems to be prolific on social media these days.

"No worries" is the main phrase I brought back from visiting Australia in 2013. "no worries m8" is a common response from me on $CORPORATE_CHAT when a coworker thanks me. The other one I use occasionally is "yonks".

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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> Children who in the US would be deemed “smart” or “bright” or “gifted” are called clever in the UK. It's interesting the way that words sometimes seem to have nuance that doesn't seem to be strictly within the definition. For no reason I can remotely explain, I'd divide these into clever/bright and smart/gifted. I've met several autists that I would readily describe as smart or even gifted, but I wouldn't describe…

In the US, the word is generally "asshole", although not, for example, in my grandfather's rural West Texas dialect.

but, in certain quarters in Great Britain, arse is pronounced as if it had no R

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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> Unfortunately my teachers were a little unreasonable about this and would still deduct points when I pointed this out... I can see the teacher's perspective here. I don't think it's unreasonable for teachers to mark this down, though I don't think your request to get back the points was unreasonable either. Communicating effectively with your particular audience (the local American audience one in this case) is arg…

> Communicating effectively with your particular audience (the local American audience one in this case) is arguably a skill they're trying to teach you Please find me the numpty who can't distinguish colour from color. > don't want your reader to see "enrol" and spend the next 5-10 seconds pondering if you're illiterate or unable to run a spellchecker instead of spending that time digesting your actual point Fair po…

Colour and realise I suspect most American readers would be able to understand just fine. But you start writing tyre, kerb, and gaol, and there will be real reading comprehension issues that start arising. We have standardized spellings for a reason and that's what schools are there to teach.

And this is just spelling, not even going into words that have different meanings in the US vs UK like pants and lemonade.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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Having grown up in the US with what I would consider a higher than average exposure to the early 2000s internet, at least compared to other peers my age, much of my ability to read and write actually came directly from social media, instant messengers and online games rather than books. This meant I often found myself struggling with spelling errors in English class which sadly resulted in deducted points from my ess…

I can never remember if I should use grey or gray

I prefer #666

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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On top of Outback Steakhouse’s (fake-Australian U.S. restaurant chain) old tag line: “no worries, just right.”

It was actually “no rules, just right”

Yeah, I sure got that one wrong. I blame a lack of watching commercial television these past few years.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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Brit living in the US here. Despite being here 7 years now i'll every so often have an American point out how odd something I say is. Recently it was me saying "I'll need to head home and get my swimming costume before heading to the pool". To which the response was "wow wow wow, "swimming costume"? Really? A costume. Not a uniform but a costume; something you wear for halloween? OMG that's adorable" Turns out Americ…

>swimming costume

when i was a lad, my mother always said "swimming togs"

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/togs

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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> Communicating effectively with your particular audience (the local American audience one in this case) is arguably a skill they're trying to teach you Please find me the numpty who can't distinguish colour from color. > don't want your reader to see "enrol" and spend the next 5-10 seconds pondering if you're illiterate or unable to run a spellchecker instead of spending that time digesting your actual point Fair po…

Colour and realise I suspect most American readers would be able to understand just fine. But you start writing tyre, kerb, and gaol, and there will be real reading comprehension issues that start arising. We have standardized spellings for a reason and that's what schools are there to teach. And this is just spelling, not even going into words that have different meanings in the US vs UK like pants and lemonade.

Interestingly, recently there is a push in the US to normalize African-American (for the lack of a better name) grammar and spelling, e.g. using "do" in place of "does". Wonder if this includes normalizing the usage of British spelling as well.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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Brit living in the US here. Despite being here 7 years now i'll every so often have an American point out how odd something I say is. Recently it was me saying "I'll need to head home and get my swimming costume before heading to the pool". To which the response was "wow wow wow, "swimming costume"? Really? A costume. Not a uniform but a costume; something you wear for halloween? OMG that's adorable" Turns out Americ…

On holiday in Whistler back in 2019, I had a brief conversation with an Englishman in the hotel elevator. A few days later, he recognizes me outside the hotel but I am noticeably slow to recognize back and he mentions "we chatted on the lift". I fake remembering while desperately searching my memory for the event of riding the chairlift with this English guy. An hour later I remember that in the UK, "lift" == "elevat…

in warehouse/trucking situations, lift is pretty common in the US

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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If you live in the US, I agree that you must use American English. But even us people that live outside of the US/UK/related countries often got errors marked, because we used the wrong regional variant... In Europe, British English is used as a reference point, but I had a similar problem as GP.

> If you live in the US, I agree that you must use American English. Why though? I think you missed my point with the rationale for this. See below. > But even us people that live outside of the US/UK/related countries often got errors marked, because we used the wrong regional variant... In Europe, British English is used as a reference point, but I had a similar problem as GP. That makes perfect sense though? The p…

As a computer science student in England we were told we should use ‘program’ rather than ‘programme’ since that was the convention in our subject.

If I remember correctly BBC Basic accepted COLOUR as well as COLOR keywords to be more approachable to primary school children who were native English speakers.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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> Unfortunately my teachers were a little unreasonable about this and would still deduct points when I pointed this out... I can see the teacher's perspective here. I don't think it's unreasonable for teachers to mark this down, though I don't think your request to get back the points was unreasonable either. Communicating effectively with your particular audience (the local American audience one in this case) is arg…

If you live in the US, I agree that you must use American English. But even us people that live outside of the US/UK/related countries often got errors marked, because we used the wrong regional variant... In Europe, British English is used as a reference point, but I had a similar problem as GP.

My teachers only commented/deducted if I mixed spellings in a single essay. If a teacher can't teach someone who uses either variant they probably have a stark educational deficit themselves.
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