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I've tracked every piece of clothing I've worn for three years (2021)

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Post by imp0cat »

jsnell wrote: post #40

> The 90 euro Converse sneakers and the 30 euro Mywears have a similar CPW of 0.87 euros and 0.70 €, respectively. Their effective cost is roughly the same, which means that walking around in the cheap Mywears is roughly as expensive as walking around in Converses. In this case, money buys quality, at least when measured by durability. I don't think there's anything wrong with the author spending a lot of money on cl…

Oh but there definitely are differences between cheap and expensive sneakers. The other thing is that some people might not notice them because they don't walk much, never getting to the sneaker "EOL", so to speak.

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Post by imp0cat »

changoplatanero wrote: post #53
koolba wrote: post #35

> In some cases, buying cheap is provenly more expensive There’s an inherent bias in being willing to throw away a cheap pair of shoes that are a bit worn and stuffed. But not being willing to toss a $500 pair of Bruno Maglis with the same level of wear. That leads to the latter being worn further and driving it down till it eventually passes the cheap stuff.

when i asked the shoe salesman which pair of shoes has the best cost per mile they looked at me like i was insane lol

:D They probably didn't have any good ones and were afraid to tell the truth.

Seriously though, anything handmade with leather has a chance to last for a long time (or be repairable!). It will be expensive though.

Re: I've tracked every piece of clothing I've worn for three years (2021)

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Post by itronitron »

floren wrote: post #18
InMice wrote: post #16

Interesting data tracking. I have to say for my jeans - I never put them in the dryer, always hung dry. All my jeans are now 10-20 years old now and except for some wear on the back cuff from wearing them around the house without shoes on they look and feel brand new. I can't find author mention "dryer" anywhere in the article. Hung dry clothes last a long time. it's the machine dryer that slowly destroys them IMO. A…

> Another thing Im doing is switching to 100% cotton (or just no plastic fibers). I love the breathability and light feel of cotton shirts. I've been wanting to do the same; it's kind of amazing how at some point everything started to be made with plastics, even jeans. If I had the time, space, and equipment, I'd make my own clothes from patterns. Because I have none, I guess I'll be carefully inspecting tags while s…

Cotton is generally far worse for the environment than other natural fibers like linen and wool, as well as most synthetic fibers.

Re: I've tracked every piece of clothing I've worn for three years (2021)

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Post by imp0cat »

happytoexplain wrote: post #19
swatcoder wrote: post #15

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I think many people here at HN can admit to spending that much on their hobbies, even the ones without summer houses. It just sounds like fashion might not be one of yours?

3.9k USD annually is a lot for a hobby. I'm not going to argue whether it's "just a bit much" or "ridiculous", but I think it's strange to imply that it's somehow not a lot.

It's quite a number, but I am sure that anyone bitten by a GAS bug (gear/guitar acquisition syndrome) can burn through a lot more money in a year.

Re: I've tracked every piece of clothing I've worn for three years (2021)

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Post by rjh29 »

hilux wrote: post #80
happytoexplain wrote: post #19

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3.9k USD annually is a lot for a hobby. I'm not going to argue whether it's "just a bit much" or "ridiculous", but I think it's strange to imply that it's somehow not a lot.

Is it? Lots of big-city gyms have memberships of $200/month or more. That's $2400 right there before you get into equipment, clothing, 1:1 coaching, sports massage, perhaps competitions, potentially travel. (And I'm not even talking about big-ticket sports like golf, horse-riding, racing cars, etc.)

In the UK I spend $30/month for the gym. Never heard of them costing that much.

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Post by seszett »

mattmanser wrote: post #91
n4r9 wrote: post #4

I did a double-take at the 3.5k Euro spend per year on clothing. My own spending is probably 2-3 orders of magnitude smaller. But then I saw how many shoes they own, and the fact that they have a summer house where at least one pair resides. This person lives differently to me.

I'm not sure whether you really spend so little on clothes, or have misunderstood the term 'order of magnitude'. If it were 3 orders of magnitude less you would be spending €3.50 on clothes per year. Even 2 orders less is €35, which I find doubtful a grown person can do (in America/Europe at least). Did you actually mean that? As I'm surprised your socks/underwear don't cost at least €35 per year, eventually they get…

> As I'm surprised your socks/underwear don't cost at least €35 per year, eventually they get holes in them. Are you darning?

I don't know if there's so much difference between countries in Europe but this year I spent about 6€ on socks at Decathlon and one pair of trousers on sale at JBC for about 10€. That's in Belgium, which is not the least expensive country of Europe. I'm not planning on buying anything else this year.

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Post by seszett »

switch007 wrote: post #99
sneak wrote: post #93

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25.5% of that is Finland's VAT. Europeans include tax in prices. Also, for whatever reason, European clothes cleaning systems are insanely harsh, and your clothes don't last nearly as long when washed there. I think it's related to the energy efficiency requirements; the dryers are much much hotter (if they are available at all) and the washers have to use miniscule amounts of water so they use a lot more agitating i…

My new European heat pump energy efficient tree hugging liberal dryer only heats to about 47c (sorry not sure what that is in futuristic values) Edit: but I do understand about clothes. I think it has a lot to do with the decline in the quality of clothes more than anything. Agitation is quite central to the cleaning process no? Top loaders agitate too? I can't imagine there is much in it

I'm not even sure US-style hot dryers are allowed in the EU? Everyone I know that has one has a low-temperature heat pump dryer.

Re: I've tracked every piece of clothing I've worn for three years (2021)

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Post by discoramallah »

swatcoder wrote: post #15
n4r9 wrote: post #4

I did a double-take at the 3.5k Euro spend per year on clothing. My own spending is probably 2-3 orders of magnitude smaller. But then I saw how many shoes they own, and the fact that they have a summer house where at least one pair resides. This person lives differently to me.

I think many people here at HN can admit to spending that much on their hobbies, even the ones without summer houses. It just sounds like fashion might not be one of yours?

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Re: I've tracked every piece of clothing I've worn for three years (2021)

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Post by switch007 »

seszett wrote: post #117
switch007 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My new European heat pump energy efficient tree hugging liberal dryer only heats to about 47c (sorry not sure what that is in futuristic values) Edit: but I do understand about clothes. I think it has a lot to do with the decline in the quality of clothes more than anything. Agitation is quite central to the cleaning process no? Top loaders agitate too? I can't imagine there is much in it

I'm not even sure US-style hot dryers are allowed in the EU? Everyone I know that has one has a low-temperature heat pump dryer.

Condenser dryers? Still available in UK and fairly sure most of EU

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Post by hilux »

xarope wrote: post #110
hilux wrote: post #106

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I'm not disputing that cushioning "feels" comfortable. So does Vicodin. But if cushioned shoes work well for you, I wouldn't expect you to change anything. Invest in HOKA. My audience is all the runners who have problems, and keep turning up the dial on cushioning, orthotics, etc. ... before finally giving up on running by their forties. Or they run on NSAIDs and trash their kidneys.

I understand your fascination with barefoot training, but it is a bit extremist. I too have tried VFFs and other barefoot shoes (I competed in a deadlift competition once, wearing merrell minumus), and do a lot of gym stuff without shoes, and there are pros and cons to the approach. If there's one thing barefoot running does emphasis though, is improvements in foot strike. If you can carry that over to more cushioned…

That's rather patronizing.

I'm not "fascinated" with running barefoot - I do run barefoot when I otherwise would not be running, due to chronic injuries.

And I'm still running when many of my peers no longer run - they complain about their knees or whatever.

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