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Re: Two in three shoppers won't buy products in locked display cases

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> so many of you are so eager to shout down what I'm saying Because what you're saying makes little sense. Cabinets increase costs. Why would the retailer willingly increase their costs when they could just not have cabinets and enjoy a better margin and not risk losing customers to internet retailers?

Because their insurance, and anybody else that's going to insure a convenience store after what happened, requires them to do so

> after what happened

After what happened? The increase in claims from stolen merchandise? Hmm...

Re: Two in three shoppers won't buy products in locked display cases

#112

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> Neither do the Targets in Richardson/Plano Ooo, I was just at the Target in Richardson Monday and yes, yes they do. Razor blades are 100% locked up, the electronics sections is more or less for show, and whitening strips are in prison. > And please, once again, explain what benefit the store gets from locking up merchandise if it has nothing to do with shoplifting? What positive outcomes comes from it from the busi…

> Razor blades are 100% locked up, the electronics sections is more or less for show Ok, but both of those things have been behind cases for a decade+. I remember needing to get an associate to get a Nintendo 64 game from the cabinet at Toys-R-Us. I'm talking about the recent push to put darn near everything in cabinets, not the highest risk things. Cabinets so pervasive you can't even buy socks or Tylenol or toothpa…

> Blaming the victim here

I'm not of the opinion that multi-billion dollar corporations can even be victims. They have too much capital and political power to be victims of anything.

> So they aren't preventing shoplifting with the cabinets, but the cabinets prevent shoplifting. The mental dissonance here is astounding

You're misunderstanding.

The cabinets DO prevent shoplifting, obvious. The question is SHOULD THEY? I think corps jumped on the opportunity without the proper analysis.

> put darn near everything in cabinets, not the highest risk things

Right. Which is why I'm shocked you don't believe, or refuse to consider, the fact that these corps DID NOT do the proper risk analysis here. If they're putting penny items behind locks my mind naturally will wonder if that's worth it.

Instead, you're concluding that the shoplifting must be so incredibly severe that even penny items must be locked up. This seems wildly unreasonable to me. What, is every other person a mass shoplifter?

Re: Two in three shoppers won't buy products in locked display cases

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Razor blades are 100% locked up, the electronics sections is more or less for show Ok, but both of those things have been behind cases for a decade+. I remember needing to get an associate to get a Nintendo 64 game from the cabinet at Toys-R-Us. I'm talking about the recent push to put darn near everything in cabinets, not the highest risk things. Cabinets so pervasive you can't even buy socks or Tylenol or toothpa…

> Blaming the victim here I'm not of the opinion that multi-billion dollar corporations can even be victims. They have too much capital and political power to be victims of anything. > So they aren't preventing shoplifting with the cabinets, but the cabinets prevent shoplifting. The mental dissonance here is astounding You're misunderstanding. The cabinets DO prevent shoplifting, obvious. The question is SHOULD THEY?…

> The cabinets DO prevent shoplifting, obvious

You literally stated these cabinets are not preventing shoplifting. Direct quote from your previous comment.

> they may believe they're preventing shop lifting, but they're not

I'll take it as maybe you misspoke here, but I don't see any other way of reading that other than "they're not [preventing shop lifting]".

The person I was originally replying to was absolutely suggesting shoplifting practically doesn't happen and that these cabinets are entirely unrelated to shoplifting. That no, they did not set up these cabinets as any response to shoplifting. So, it's not obvious to a lot of people.

> The question is SHOULD THEY?

Uh, yeah, they should prevent shoplifting. Shoplifting increases costs for everyone actually trying to buy things. Overall, we should be trying to prevent and stop shoplifting, its bad for society overall. Unless you're arguing rampant theft is a good thing overall for society and a society which steals all the time is a healthy and good society.

> What, is every other person a mass shoplifter?

In some locations, kind of? As I've mentioned elsewhere in this thread I've personally seen people come into stores, open a box of trash bags, fill the bags with stuff, and walk out the store. It happens, and quite often in some places.

> If they're putting penny items

They're not penny items. They're $20+ items which are now far easier to resell thanks to things like Amazon not questioning where stuff comes from and the rise of people using Facebook Marketplace and other online storefronts like that. Remember, a bottle of Tylenol or cold medicine or a pack of Fruit of the Loom socks can now be around $25. Grab a dozen or so of each of these items, sell them at half price, and you're up a few hundred bucks. Pretty low risk since so many jurisdictions these days won't actually enforce it at all, and technically there's nothing illegal about selling socks on Facebook Marketplace.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/organized-shoplift...

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/12/inside-organized-crime-rings...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmTNB5zo5tI

These kinds of organized shoplifting groups have greatly increased in the past few years. Usage of things like FBM exploded. But hey, you were just arguing shoplifting hasn't increased much, so you'll probably also argue this just doesn't happen.

> the fact that these corps DID NOT do the proper risk analysis here

You're stating it as if it is a fact. Where's the actual hard analysis you're presenting to prove this fact? Why do you refuse consider that maybe they did do the analysis? Just a few days ago you were of the opinion shoplifting was trending down, why are your thoughts from your wandering mind absolute truths?

Re: Two in three shoppers won't buy products in locked display cases

#114

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If you are trying to take my property, I should have the right to stop you from doing that. No one is saying shoplifters are animals, but there are laws for a reason, they are part of what holds society together and holds back chaos. It also sounds like new laws should be passed to protect one against civil lawsuits when it comes to defending your property or having an agent doing that.

> No one is saying shoplifters are animal Then why say "all animals respond to violence". What is that supposed to mean? > but there are laws for a reason, they are part of what holds society together and holds back chaos. You're right, the rule of law holds back the chaos. Not empowering and encouraging vigilante justice. Oh sorry, I thought you pick pocketed me. Turns out my phone was just in my other pocket. Good…

Shoplifters are animals. So is everyone else.

I guess GPT-4 isn’t an animal, but I’d hesitate to call it “someone”.

Re: Two in three shoppers won't buy products in locked display cases

#115

I was in a CVS where they had all the Tylenol/Advil behind a locked glass display, and all the CVS headache relief on the shelf. I mentioned to an employee that this seemed unfair/illegal, and they responded that "people only steal the brand name Advil, so that's what we lock up". Seems unlikely to me. Anyone else see something like this at CVS?

> I mentioned to an employee that this seemed unfair/illegal

Complaining to employees about about shit the employee had no control over should be illegal.

It's a job - they don't set the rules and often are not even told why the rules exist...

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