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Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by mattl »

dubme1 wrote: post #45

Paid Kagi user here. I REALLY wish Kagi would focus on it's core selling point: search. Building a search engine is hard enough. I use Kagi Search everyday and I am mostly happy with it but the product has a lot of room for improvment. Stop launching new products (browser, summarizer, gpt, assistant) while your core product is still behind the competition in many areas.

The move to AI stuff is why I don’t have a Kagi subscription. I really liked the idea of paying for search. I don’t want to give any money to an AI product.

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by coconut08 »

dubme1 wrote: post #45

Paid Kagi user here. I REALLY wish Kagi would focus on it's core selling point: search. Building a search engine is hard enough. I use Kagi Search everyday and I am mostly happy with it but the product has a lot of room for improvment. Stop launching new products (browser, summarizer, gpt, assistant) while your core product is still behind the competition in many areas.

paying user here and i love these new additions and am super grateful they have added them. these tools are a real boon to improving search and for getting information.

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by handsclean »

daft_pink wrote: post #31

I love Kagi and I’m a paid user, but I’m not willing to pay $25 per month for the assistants for the following reasons: * I already pay these companies directly and wouldn’t be able to cancel these as I use the voice assistant on my phone from ChatGPT and love using the artifacts from Claude on my computer * I’m also paying raycast to access these at the touch of my keyboard and prefer to quick access use it there I…

I’m not sure I read this right, but I think this feature is headed for the $10/mo plan, and currently exclusive to the $25/mo plan only as part of that plan’s early access to new features.

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by bangaladore »

Havoc wrote: post #104
bangaladore wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use something like OpenRouter, which lets you access essentially all commercially available models. Including open-source models. There are no rate limits. You pay a different rate per model (OpenRouter shows the pricing transparently). You load your account with credits. I use it daily (undoubtedly far more than the average user) and loaded 50$ with credits five months ago, but I still have over 1/2 of it le…

OpenRouter absolutely does have rate limits: https://openrouter.ai/docs/limits ...haven't had issues with them, but they are there

Good catch. It's not relevant if used as an "assistant," though.

And if you cared and loaded your credits, you can do 200 req/s (maybe also a surge limit? docs are unclear)

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by daft_pink »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #61
daft_pink wrote: post #31

I love Kagi and I’m a paid user, but I’m not willing to pay $25 per month for the assistants for the following reasons: * I already pay these companies directly and wouldn’t be able to cancel these as I use the voice assistant on my phone from ChatGPT and love using the artifacts from Claude on my computer * I’m also paying raycast to access these at the touch of my keyboard and prefer to quick access use it there I…

Can you explain to me why Kagi is so good? I don't use Google Search so don't try the privacy card on me

I would say that most alternate search engines don’t perform as well as google. Kagi performs better primarily because you can downrank or flat out block certain domains and also upvote helpful resources so that those domains are more likely to appear in your results. Also there are no ads so you get just the results and nothing else. When you sign up you even get a list of most blocked and downvoted sites from other users like quora is top blocked so it’s easy to improve your results. They also pay for access to certain databases and you get access to little things like court records when you search for people by name or other little improvements. I don’t think privacy is the primary reason to use it at all.

Honestly it’s awesome I use a software at work so I upvote that site and block the site of the competing software for example so I get the correct help guide. I don’t understand why google doesn’t offer many of these features.

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by al_borland »

ziddoap wrote: post #68
teractiveodular wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Search results are ranked by what's best, not which advertiser pays the most. And unlike DDG, the quality of the results is actually great.

> And unlike DDG, the quality of the results is actually great. Any chance you can expand on this? I've used DDG for years and find the results great, but maybe we just query for different things. Is there any specific topics that you find DDG is bad at but Kagi is good at?

I tried using DDG many times in the past. I found myself using the !g constantly, because I wasn't finding what I needed in the DDG results. After a while, I started preemptively adding !g, because I assumed DDG would fail me, as it often did.

With Kagi, I haven't had that. It finds what I need and surfaces things that Google didn't. On the one or two occasions I've had trouble and jumped to Google out of desperation, I also didn't find what I was looking for there... so I guess an answer didn't exist.

For sites I don't like, I can block them from my results, or rank things higher/lower. I can make my own custom !bangs and shortcuts, instead of being stuck with what I'm given. While I haven't used Google since they launched their AI features, I can say I have really enjoyed Kagi's AI responses to questions, and that each line of the response is referenced so I can check out the source (not sure if they all do this or not... I can only compare it to ChatGPT, which does not).

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by tinyhouse »

jjmarr wrote: post #58
tinyhouse wrote: post #19

It's not clear from the post how to access this new assistant. The search page has no such option (not a paying user). When I run a search, I only see an LLM based summary of the results similar to Google's. Update: I see now that they say it's not available for free users. Need to pay $25/month. Not sure why, they can offer it for free users with the cheaper models like they do now to generate a "quick answer". I'm…

Kagi search isn't free either.

Well, it works for me without paying. I don't use it often though.
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