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Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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This is wrong. All settings in Brave with an impact on user privacy are opt-in. They even inform you of their product metrics, when you first start it, despite having a paper on how they anonymize that data. Versus Firefox, which never bothered. Firefox, which also added metrics for ads, similar with Privacy Sandbox, without informing users. I've never seen a browser with such a strong focus on privacy, the only cont…

> Brave has received negative press for diverting ad revenue from websites to itself,[30] collecting unsolicited donations for content creators without their consent,[43] suggesting affiliate links in the address bar[49] and installing a paid VPN service without the user's consent.[58] These are the primary issues I hear about regarding Brave on this forum. It's also founded by Brendan Eich who was forced out of Mozi…

Also, BAT being a cryptocurrency already turns off people who aren't fan of crypto.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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post #61

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That's what I used for a year or so before switching back to Firefox. It's OK, but doesn't come as close to meeting my needs as Firefox does.

Curious about what needs you had that Brave didn't fill?

Not your parent commenter but I love Firefox more after discovering that you can't even customize the toolbar buttons in Brave. That's such a basic functionality that I'd taken for granted, until I tried to move out of Firefox for a brief time.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Have been using Firefox for a long time, no issues, though long ago when I had little memory, Chrome was using less of it. Firefox also has HTTPS-only mode, encrypted DNS without fallbacks, supports SOCKS and Encrypted Client Hello (although almost no website support it). However, it is better to just buy more memory (unless you are lucky to use Apple products). Regarding analytics, I believe browsers should take use…

BTW I don't understand the anti-tracking absolutism. I don't care about being profiled as long as the profile lands me in a group of thousands of people like me. Yes, I live in ${CITY}, identify as ${GEDNER}, am approximately ${AGE_RANGE} years old, run ${BROWSER} under set to ${LOCALE}. This does not allow to easily harm me. If it allows ad networks to target their ads, so be it, uBlock Origin still works well. But…

How do you feel about ${INCOME}, ${SEXUAL_PREFERENCE}, ${RACE}, ${WEIGHT}, ${RELIGION}? Those categories are at least as broad as the ones you mentioned and are absolutely profiled.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Damn. If there was ever any doubt about why you should get off chrome, this seems to put an end to that.

Shed a tear for the Firefox that could have been

Kind of wondering what you’re talking about here? Firefox still works great for me, did I miss something in the news? Is there some sort of big change coming down the pipeline?

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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> Every new web API should guarantee that it doesn't provide more fingerprinting data or hides the data behind a permission. FWIW, it's practically impossible to provide that guarantee because the API necessarily provides at least the data point of, "Did they select an option in the permission notification?" ("If yes, what option was selected?" etc.) It's often said that the only solution to this is regulation and th…

> FWIW, it's practically impossible to provide that guarantee because the API necessarily provides at least the data point of, "Did they select an option in the permission notification?" ("If yes, what option was selected?" etc.) Wrong. The status of permissions should not be visible to the page in most cases. Instead, fake data should be returned from them. That would be practical.

I've heard that fake data, like from AdNausium, just becomes noise as the advertisers know the patterns to filter them out.

Assuming that's true, it seems to waste everyone's time and bits to fake it instead of just not answering or a minimal denial.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Firefox is usually great for me, but with Chromium-based browsers having such a massive market share monopoly I do occasionally find a website that doesn't work properly on Firefox. But, I will stick with Firefox as long as possible.

Do you have any recent examples? It's more often I see websites that claim they don't work with firefox but actually do if you change your user agent.

Yeah I keep hearing this but it never pans out, seems like in my experience a lot of people don’t know they might have to turn off an extension or two (ublock, built-in trackers, etc) to get a website to work.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Have been using Firefox for a long time, no issues, though long ago when I had little memory, Chrome was using less of it. Firefox also has HTTPS-only mode, encrypted DNS without fallbacks, supports SOCKS and Encrypted Client Hello (although almost no website support it). However, it is better to just buy more memory (unless you are lucky to use Apple products). Regarding analytics, I believe browsers should take use…

>It would be great if browsers made fingerprinting more difficult, i.e.: not allowed to read canvas data, not allowed to read GPU name, enumerate audio cards, probe for installed extensions etc. Every new web API should guarantee that it doesn't provide more fingerprinting data or hides the data behind a permission.

This should be what browser maker's #1 focus! Preventing fingerprinting of user's browser.

Seems all this cookies talk the news and for policy makers are just limited hangouts.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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post #74

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Firefox is usually great for me, but with Chromium-based browsers having such a massive market share monopoly I do occasionally find a website that doesn't work properly on Firefox. But, I will stick with Firefox as long as possible.

Do you have any recent examples? It's more often I see websites that claim they don't work with firefox but actually do if you change your user agent.

YouTube, FreshDesk, Google TV (sharing from Firefox)

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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I'll just stop using them instead. Easily said, until it's your bank, or a government entity, or the electric company, or any of the thousands of other entities that have started blocking Firefox. Firefox should really camouflage its user agent, or make it trivial to do so.

My soon-to-be-not-current insurance company. https://imgur.com/a/7WMuu7c

That’s likely just because they don’t bother to test at all in Firefox, not because they will ban you.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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post #65

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> or your favorite websites won't work If my favorite websites stop working with Firefox, they won't be my favorite websites anymore. I'll just stop using them instead.

I'll just stop using them instead. Easily said, until it's your bank, or a government entity, or the electric company, or any of the thousands of other entities that have started blocking Firefox. Firefox should really camouflage its user agent, or make it trivial to do so.

That's why Firefox needs a userbase too large to ignore.

If the overwhelming majority of users submits to Google, then Google has the power to erode privacy for everyone.

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