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Show me 1 example.
Show me that copilot never makes a mistake or introduces variables that never have been initialized...
This is a strawman, he never said it didn't make mistakes.
I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code
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Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code
#112This seems like a support issue, not an AI issue. AI is how the code was written, but the issue would be the same if it was amateurs writing bad code. If all you want to do is support your API, a support article outlining the issues you see over and over would be something to point your customers to. Warrant your API against errors, but point out that anything more is billable work. If you're not interested, partner…
This post seems to be saying that AI opened up a new avenue for people to demand free work. If someone asked "I wrote some rough designs and interfaces, can you write me an app for free?" The author could easily detect it as a request for free work. But because the first part is hidden behind some ChatGPT generated code and the second part is disguised as a request for help, the author would be tricked into doing thi…
Is this a chatgpt summary of the article?
Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Show me that copilot never makes a mistake or introduces variables that never have been initialized...
This is a strawman, he never said it didn't make mistakes.
Oh for crying out loud, I obviously mean these specific mistakes. If you have worked in any capacity with LLMs like this you would have seen them variables or suddenly switch up the convention of how they're written.
Certainly if you are in a conversation mode after a few back and forths this happens from time to time.
I am just not going to spend my time digging to previous prompts of code I might not want to share just to satisfy a random internet person .
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But he made a good living out of it, so in the end it was a good idea?
He may have made a good living, but his customer / employer bought low quality code with lots of tech debt. That business model only works until customers are sophisticated enough to understand tech debt. In the future, more customers will be less willing to pay the same good wages for low quality code.
> but his customer / employer bought low quality code with lots of tech debt.
Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code
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This is a strawman, he never said it didn't make mistakes.
Oh for crying out loud, I obviously mean these specific mistakes. If you have worked in any capacity with LLMs like this you would have seen them variables or suddenly switch up the convention of how they're written. Certainly if you are in a conversation mode after a few back and forths this happens from time to time. I am just not going to spend my time digging to previous prompts of code I might not want to share…
The models I've used don't make typos on variable names that already exist in the context. Typos are not the failure mode, this is literally the easiest text prediction task they can do.
Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code
#116I had a related episode at work when my coworker asked me why his seemingly trivial 10 line piece of code was misbehaving inexplicably. It turned out he had two variables `file_name` and `filename` and used one in place of another. I asked him how he ended up with such code, he said he used copilot to create it. Using code from a generative AI without understanding what it does is never a good idea.
We hired a new guy at work. In one of his first tasks he had chosen to write some bash, and it was pure nonsense. I mean it contained things like:
if [ -z "${Var}+x" ]
Where I can see what the author was trying to do, but the code is just wrong.
I dont mind people not knowing stuff, especially when it's essentially Bash trivia. But what broke my heart was when I pointed out the problem, linked to the documentation, but recieved the response "I dont know what it means, I just used copilot" followed by him just removing the code.
What a waste of a learning opportunity.
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#119I'm always a little surprised at how many people out there want to develop software yet haven't put in the effort to gain even the most basic computer nerd programming chops. You see this all the time in the more newbie-friendly game engine communities. Maybe you don't want to pursue a career in software, but anyone can spend a week learning Python or JavaScript. I suspect/hope a lot of these people are just kids who…
One of my favorite intern stories was a kid who was a compsci senior, very good university, and who was assigned to write some Python code for my team. He had the very immature "Python is a baby's language" attitude. He wasn't working on my stuff so I don't really keep track of what he's doing, but a few weeks later I look at what he has written. Almost all of his Python functions have one parameter with an asterisk, and he does a len() check on it, printing and return an integer if it's not the right length of function arguments. Turns out this guy learned this behavior from Perl, used an asterisk because why not he always does in C, and was just manually unpacking every function argument and using a C style return error handling process.
Still the most insane thing I've seen, but I know there are a lot of kids out of college who got used to gen AI for code writing who put out a lot of this kind of code. Also, coincidentally, we haven't hired any US college interns in about 3 years or so.
Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code
#120I'm always a little surprised at how many people out there want to develop software yet haven't put in the effort to gain even the most basic computer nerd programming chops. You see this all the time in the more newbie-friendly game engine communities. Maybe you don't want to pursue a career in software, but anyone can spend a week learning Python or JavaScript. I suspect/hope a lot of these people are just kids who…
I think people often don't know where to begin.
Agreed. I’ve experienced this in different programming domains.
A mere ten or so years ago I only wrote firmware in C and MacOS apps in objective-c. That was my world and it was all I knew, and all I’ve done for a long time.
Then something happened. Small startup. Website needs urgent fix and the web guy is MIA, so what the hell, I can take a stab at it.
Literally had no idea where to start. I didn’t know about npm, minified transpiling, much less actual testing and deployment. Could not make sense of anything anywhere. Hopelessly lost. I even grepped the JavaScript for “void main()” out of desperation. Just ridiculous