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Re: Zed AI

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Post by rkharsan64 »

janice1999 wrote: post #3

JetBrains ships a local, offline AI auto-complete in PyCharm. Sure it's limited, but it shows it can be done. It's a pity other companies aren't trying the same, especially this one that boasts about millisecond editing times. Edit: JetBrains, not IntelliJ. Auto-complete details - https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2024/04/04/full-line-code-co...

I agree that the completions might not be that great, but for context: this is a 100M model, while most models that people compare this to are atleast 100x bigger.

They also focus on single line completions, and ship different models per programming language. All these make it possible to ship a decent completion engine with a very small download size.

Re: Zed AI

#112

Post by golergka »

throwaway082024 wrote: post #74
golergka wrote: post #45

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I love AI and think Zed is dropping the ball big time here. How can they focus their limited resources into developing shitty AI extensions when they should be focusing on absolute deal-breakers, like cross-platform support? Nobody cares that they can't use Claude on Zed. Everyone cares that they can't use Zed on Windows.

> Nobody cares that they can't use Claude on Zed.

I do. I just cancelled Cody subscription because it incredibly slowed down my VSCode. If Zed is able to do advanced AI features that Cody did but remain snappy, I will gladly pay them $20 a month.

> Everyone cares that they can't use Zed on Windows.

There are more users on Windows and Android, but they on average pay less and more often make developer tools purchase decisions as employers, not individuals. If you're starting a small company making new kind of developer tools that is not tailed for corporations, macOS is a much better market.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by wnolens »

madeofpalk wrote: post #92
siscia wrote: post #8

The main issue with these set of tools is that I mostly read and understand code more than writing it myself. Not enough attention is been given to this imbalance. It is impressive having an AI that can write code for you, but an AI that helps me understand which code we (as a team) should write would be much more useful.

No one should be submitting code that's difficult to understand, regardless of how it was 'written'. This problem exists just the same as a developer who's going to copy large blocks of StackOverflow without much thought.

> No one should be submitting code that's difficult to understand

what? ok. Nice ideals.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by elpocko »

icholy wrote: post #102
1a527dd5 wrote: post #90

I know I'm not the target market. I don't want my editor to have AI. I was really looking forward to trying Zed, but this just means I'll stick to VS/Code with the AI gung disabled. In general, if any product comes with "AI" I'm turned off by it.

Yeah, I also don't want my editor to have syntax highlighting. I refuse to use any editor that has it. Don't even get me started on native vcs support. My rule of thumb is: "If it auto-completes then it gets the auto-yeet."

It's "Find and replace" that makes my blood boil. I won't stand for it.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by sebzim4500 »

>Claude 3.5 Sonnet's new Fast Edit Mode, optimized for text editing. This upcoming mode achieves unprecedented speed in transforming existing text, enabling near-instantaneous code refactoring and document editing at scale

I wonder what this is. Have they finetuned a version which is good at producing diffs rather than replacing an entire file at once? In benchmarks sonnet 3.5 is better than most models when it comes to producing diffs but still does worse than when it replaces the whole file.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

cube2222 wrote: post #108
cube2222 wrote: post #54

As I’ve said in yesterday’s thread[0], contrary to many others I find the AI integration in Zed to be extremely smooth and pleasant to use, so I’m happy they’re doubling down on this. However, personally, I prefer to have it configured to talk directly to Anthropic, to limit the number of intermediaries seeing my code, but in general I can see myself using this in the future. More importantly, I’m happy that they mig…

Also, I know some people say “just let me pay for the editor” but I don’t think that’s actually a viable path. The editor is open-source, and it being open-source is great. Others can contribute, it generally helps adoption, it will probably help with getting people to author plugins, and it means if they go in an undesirable way, the community will be able to fork. So without making it non-open-source, they’d need t…

I would like us as an industry to promote paying for things we use. Crazy idea, I know.

Open source is great and fun and an incredible force multiplier for the world, but when you want to do this stuff for a living, you have to charge money for it somehow, and if you're a software business, and not just software adjacent, it means charging for software.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by linsomniac »

nichochar wrote: post #35

I recently switched from neovim to zed, and I overall like Zed. I miss telescope, and think some vim navigation was better, but I suspect that it has to do with how much effort I put into configuring one over the other, so time will tell. My biggest gripe was how bad the AI was. I really want a heavy and well-crafter AI in my editor, like Cursor, but I don't want a fork of the (hugely bloated and slow) vscode, and I…

Agreed about the AI, the last time I tried Zed I was also trying Cursor at the same time, and the Cursor AI integration vs what Zed offered was just night and day. So I got the Cursor subscription. But I haven't used it in 2 months (I don't get to code a lot in my job).

This was maybe 3-4 months ago, so I'm excited to try Zed again.

Re: Zed AI

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

nprateem wrote: post #44
0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zed is trying to position itself as a next gen hackers editor. Text editing with lessons learned from the multitude of experiments in the space. A flagship feature that is online only and requires me to trust a third party is a deal breaker to many. For instance, my employer would not be pleased if I suddenly started sharing code with another. Take the AI out of the conversation: if you told your employer you shared…

Yeah but so is I sent a message to s random person about our business vs I sent a message to one of our suppliers

Is Zed a supplier? Sounds like a random developer can sign up at will without any corporate NDAs or other established legal agreements. Will my employer hash out the NDAs for every developer tool that wants to incorporate cloud AI for the lulz?

Re: Zed AI

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Post by [deleted] »

kenjackson wrote: post #106
modernerd wrote: post #32

I just want a fast programmable text editor with a native GUI and good defaults. But that seems really tough to find, for some reason. Zed is so close, but I’d much rather see a focus on the “programmable” part and let the AI and collaboration features emerge later out of rich extensibility (i.e. as plugins, perhaps even paid plugins) than have them built-in behind a sign-in and unknown future pricing model.

What does “native GUI” mean?

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Re: Zed AI

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Post by nsonha »

acedTrex wrote: post #58

AI assistants just slow me down. Its a very rare case i find them actually useful. I am generally concerned by the amount of devs that seem to claim that it is useful. What on earth are yall accepting.

Did Google make you less productive when looking up about code? If it did not then I dont see how looking up with AI can be worse.
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