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Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by benterix »

ChaitanyaSai wrote: post #52

I've trained as a neuroscientist and written a book about consciousness. I've worked in machine learning and built products for over 20 years and now use AI a fair bit in the ed-tech work we do. So I've seen how the field has progressed and also have been able to look at it from a perspective most AI/engineering people don't -- what does this artificial intelligence look like when compared to biological intelligence.…

> and it's clear we are close

I'd like to believe it more than you do. Unfortunately, in spite of these millions of dollars, the progress on LLMs has stalled.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by h_tbob »

el_benhameen wrote: post #53
djaouen wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you using AI to double your coding productivity? Are you using ChatGPT, or Claude, or GitHub Copilot? I am an AI-skeptic, so I am curious here. Thanks!

I’m not the OP and I wouldn’t say that AI has doubled my productivity, but the latest Claude models in particular have made me less of a skeptic than I was a few months ago. I’m an experienced backend dev who’s been working on some Vue frontend projects, and it’s significantly accelerated my ability to learn the complexities of e.g. Vue’s reactivity model. I can ask a complex question that involves several niche conc…

Exactly. It’s insanely helpful when u are a dev with experience in another language. You know what you want, you just don’t know the name of the functions, etc. so you put a comment

// reverse list

And it writes code in the proper language.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by h_tbob »

MrVandemar wrote: post #27
h_tbob wrote: post #15

To be honest, I was surprised by ChatGPT. I didn’t think we were close. We are running out of textual data now to train on… so now they have switched to VIDEO. Geez now they can train on all the VIDEOS on the internet. And when they finally get bots working, they will have limitless streams of TACTILE data… Writing it off as the next fad seems fun. But to be honest, I was shocked by what openai did the first time. So…

> Seriously I am a 2x coder compared to what I was because of this. Isn't the energy consumption of this technology pretty catastrophic? Do you consider the issue of energy consumption so abstracted you don't worry about it? Do you do anything to offset your increased carbon emissions?

I’m working on getting a place with solar panels. I think that’s important for sustainability, plus who wants to have to be connected to the grid anyway?

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Post by 0points »

bamboozled wrote: post #69
technick wrote: post #37

I was out at Defcon this year and it was all about AI this, AI that, AI will solve the worlds problems, AI will catch all threats, blah blah blah blah...

I work with people like this. The least skilled, least experienced, least productive people on my team constantly recommend “AI” solutions that are just a waste of time. I think that’s what people like about AI, it’s hope, maybe you won’t have to learn anything but still be productive. Sounds nice ?

My clients are like this lately.

Non techies that now are suggesting how I design solutions for them by asking ChatGPT. And they seem to treat me like the stupid one for refusing.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by bamboozled »

stephenitis wrote: post #91
bamboozled wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How on earths name do you use an LLM to find information ? I just don’t get it. For current events it out of date and it confidently feeds me shit ? I might use them occasionally for a rubber ducky but , replacing Google ? Hm

ChatGPT often googles it for me and gives me a summary

But it's still Google.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Post by h_tbob »

djaouen wrote: post #26
h_tbob wrote: post #15

To be honest, I was surprised by ChatGPT. I didn’t think we were close. We are running out of textual data now to train on… so now they have switched to VIDEO. Geez now they can train on all the VIDEOS on the internet. And when they finally get bots working, they will have limitless streams of TACTILE data… Writing it off as the next fad seems fun. But to be honest, I was shocked by what openai did the first time. So…

How are you using AI to double your coding productivity? Are you using ChatGPT, or Claude, or GitHub Copilot? I am an AI-skeptic, so I am curious here. Thanks!

Ok I jumped on copilot when it first came out so I have been using it for a long time.

Since I have been using it so long, I have a really good intuition of what it is “thinking” in every scenario and a pretty good idea of what it can do for me. So that helps me get more use out of it.

So for example one of the projects I’m doing now is a flutter project - my first one. So I don’t remember all the widgets. But I just write a comment:

// this widget does XYZ

And it will write something that is in the right direction.

The other thing it knows super well is like rote code, and for context, it reads the whole file. So like Dart, for example is awful at json. So you have to write “toMap” for each freaking class where you do key values to generate a map which can be turned into json. Same goes for fromMap. So annoying.

But with copilot? You just write “toMap” and it reads all your properties and suggests a near perfect implementation. So much time saved!

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Post by carlmr »

lelanthran wrote: post #99
lemarchr wrote: post #98

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Argument from authority is a pernicious fallacy, and typically effective too. You were right to call it out. I must admit I overlooked the sarcasm, however.

> I must admit I overlooked the sarcasm, however. Don't feel too bad; until I read the next response I was in two minds about whether sarcasm was intended or not. It's bloody hard to tell, sometimes :-/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
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