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Technology disappears when it becomes ubiquitous. It never actually becomes less, because people don't want less. I can't see for example people wanting there to be fewer lightbulbs, or even refrigerators (mainly for those in warm areas). Everybody wants safe lighting and their food unspoiled after a day (once exposed to these things), and likely won't consider the means to be "tech". And it only improves over time.…

I would like fewer lightbulbs. Modern omnipresent light pollution is harmful to ourselves and our environment, and probably doesn't need to be at the level it is now for "safe lighting". It's okay to have some darkness sometimes, inside your house and inside your neighborhood.

Agreed that some darkness is OK, particularly in unused areas of a home. And there're already solutions for that, such as motion sensors.

I doubt you want much dark in a neighborhood though, particularly if there are unsavory elements potentially roaming around. A sliver of light may be the difference between someone being attacked or a home robbed.

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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I don't mean you should be technically prevented from performing a translation, edit, or filter on something you own. I mean creators should be able to prevent the publication of a translation whether that is a different language, subtitles, or signing through the usual copyright mechanisms.

I'd never heard this before, but it's really interesting. This reminds me a lot of when Hollywood tried (successfully?) to bully Netflix out of adding a playback speed button. I'm not sure to what extent creators should be allowed to control how people consume their media.

This is the kind of thing why I'm very anti-DRM. Once content hits my system, particularly if I've paid for it, it should be mine to do with as I please.

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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Technology disappears when it becomes ubiquitous. It never actually becomes less, because people don't want less. I can't see for example people wanting there to be fewer lightbulbs, or even refrigerators (mainly for those in warm areas). Everybody wants safe lighting and their food unspoiled after a day (once exposed to these things), and likely won't consider the means to be "tech". And it only improves over time.…

> because people don't want less. I do, the Amish do, and quite a few other people against technology DO want less. In fact, even ordinary people (non-techies) often tell me technology is too entrenched. What about those people ditching smartphones for dumphones. I don't think that tech improves things and I DO want less.

What do you want less of exactly? A dumbphone is still tech. Perhaps some would rather have just a land line (brings to mind that there are still places in my country without phone lines since the passage of hurricane Beryl)?

But back to the primary: is it really tech that some want less of, or the negative effects caused by its overuse/abuse? For example, IIUC the Amish are against modern tech primarily because it's changing their communities in ways they aren't fond of. But they still use tech that's not so modern, such as buggies (as opposed to just riding horses), manual plows for farming, saws and hammers for building, etc. Can anyone even go less than that? And that relative "less" only moves forward over time.

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>...new jobs will not be created, except the kind of jobs that crush the human spirit into oblivion... AI certainly means everyone will be able to create 'art' and as a result we'll have more art than we know what to do with, music and images are already confetti, soon so will full length 'films/movies'. That leaves anyone who can actually sing, paint, play, dance, in prime position to take up those mantles.

What do you mean by the last sentence? Isn't it the opposite? People who could do art stuff won't be able to sustain themselves using those skills anymore because those will be devalued a lot.

I mean, meant to imply, live performance will become gold.

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This is a fallacy called "Lump of labour fallacy" (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy ).

Calling something a fallacy does not mean it truly is one. I have not seen strong evidence that there is not a "lump of labor" in extremely high-rent countries like the US. For a sufficiently small period of time, there absolutely is a "lump of labor". If I were to go into a county with robots and rent them out to employers for 1/4 of the wage of their current employees, and they all fired their employees and accepte…

There are a number of misconceptions when it comes to the lump of labor fallacy. The prevalent one is confusing the small and the big picture.

If a factory introduces automation, no doubt that the resulting job losses are a problem that must be addressed.

However, the lump of labor refers to the big picture - in the same time span, other jobs are created elsewhere. If they weren't, considering that automation started at least 200 years ago (in the most limited sense of the term), the whole planet would be out of jobs by now.

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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Technology disappears when it becomes ubiquitous. It never actually becomes less, because people don't want less. I can't see for example people wanting there to be fewer lightbulbs, or even refrigerators (mainly for those in warm areas). Everybody wants safe lighting and their food unspoiled after a day (once exposed to these things), and likely won't consider the means to be "tech". And it only improves over time.…

> because people don't want less. I do, the Amish do, and quite a few other people against technology DO want less. In fact, even ordinary people (non-techies) often tell me technology is too entrenched. What about those people ditching smartphones for dumphones. I don't think that tech improves things and I DO want less.

The general form of what you're describing ("I want product X to have less Y", in this case, tech) has been discussed by Joel Spolsky in an article about product design.

I can't find the article, but it said something around the lines of "each Microsoft Word user thinks that there are too many functionalities, and wants less".

His remark is that each user uses different functionalities, so one can't reduce a product's functionality in a way that satisfies everybody.

Everybody would sure love to have a smartphone tailored 100% to their usage, but in real world, either they accept smartphones in toto, or they just use a brick. In generalized form, the same concept applies to tech.

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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In my experience, human dubbing never captures the original tone anyway. Probably never can unless it's done by people fluent in both source and target languages and're also good at voice acting. And so I have a huge preference for subs so I can appreciate the nuance in the original voices.

Sometimes, very rare, the dub is actually better (yes, subjective, but still) than the original. E.g. I do find Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas in German absolutely hilarious, start to finish. Then I watched the english version - was I surprised how serious this is in original voice. It's an entirely different movie in its original tone.

"Wayne's World" in French is also a masterpiece. But it's been dubbed by very good people (called "Les Nuls") who understood the jokes and created appropriate ones instead of loosing them in translation when needed.

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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Unlike other methods of automation, AI is replacing human beings too fast. And before you say, "new jobs will be created" -- look at history. After the computer, new jobs have been created, but what kind of jobs? Every year, we are becoming more entwined in wage slavery as the wealth accumulates at the top and jobs become more meaningless. So, no, new jobs will not be created, except the kind of jobs that crush the h…

can't I with that creates video that have the world as potential users? and the video can be the products, or tutoriala for another products. This allows me to do more, not less.

see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41330587
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