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Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Oh my. Everyone who cares about tomatoes grows their own, supermarkets are for the rest. They are not demanding and will grow anywhere there's sun, including in pot on balcony.

Why is capitalism failing us here? Why do we need to grow our own?

I’ve not been myself but I’ve heard that in Japan it’s common to give fruit as a gift and that as a result there’s very high end fruit available for purchase. You can go into a store and spend the equivalent of $50 on the best looking and tasting melon you’ve ever had.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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My understanding is that this has less to do with the specific location the tomatoes are grown, and more to do with the distance from the point of consumption they are grown. If the tomatoes have to travel a long distance, they will be picked before ripe so that they are more hardy during transit. Unfortunately this significantly alters the taste for the worse. I don't really live in the U.S. anymore, but I used to p…

A coworker regularly emptied his fish tank onto his backyard tomato patch.

He would bring the results and leave them in the kitchenette, with instructions to wash them thoroughly.

They are the best that I have ever tasted.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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I am American, but living in Japan - the tomatoes here are nothing like the ones pictured but they taste so much better than anything I ever had growing up, enough that chilled tomatoes with salt on the side is a common appetizer in many izakayas. I didn't realize that tomatoes could be so tasty on their own until I left.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Oh how I emphasize with this story, it too reminds me of my childhood.

When I was a child my grandmother grew tomatoes that were truly delicious. She used to pick them just at the right time when they were ripe-red and lusciously sweet on the outside but just retained a hint of green on the inside. This gave them a slightly acidic edge that one just doesn't get with over-ripe tomatoes or ones that are ripened slowly. I'd add that the ideal ripening also requires good sunshine.

Her tomatoes just spoiled me forever, I've never been satisfied with tomatoes purchased in shops, whilst some are just OK most commercial tomatoes are tasteless compared with ones that are freshly picked at their optimal ripeness.

It seems to me there's no ideal solution when it comes to commercially distributed tomatoes, they have to be picked before they're at optimal ripeness for efficient transport and distribution and it's just fact that tomatoes just don't ripen off the vine to give them that luscious taste of vine-ripened ones.

Frankly, I find some canned tomatoes better than ones that one buys in shops, they definitely can have more flavor. Canned tomatoes like those from Italian canning companies such as Mutti retain flavor because they are picked at just the right time then canned immediately. That this is noticeable even after the canning process shows just how critical it is to pick tomatoes at their optimal ripeness.

These days I get most of my tomatoes in the form of small cherry tomatoes, they at least retain some of their flavor after the distribution process.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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It’s not just Croatia. Local food is fresh from the sun and ground. Go to your farmers’ market. Meet your farmer. Sign up for a farm box and get it every week. You’ll eat better, live healthier, connect with your community. Oh and it’s cheaper and your money goes directly to the people who deserve it.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Another croatian chiming in, I get most of my vegetables from my mother's garden, I think that's true for a lot of croats who live in the cities but have parents in the countryside.

So, where in Makarska region should one go to get some? ;) Are those "local" sellers near the beach really local? Or do they just resell stuff from Kaufland/Lidl to naive tourists for inflated prices?

Not a Croatian, but I visit the Zadar / Ugljan area every couple of years. Last time a Bosnian friend visited from Banja Luka and she brought some tomatoes with her. They were phenomenal <3

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Why is capitalism failing us here? Why do we need to grow our own?

Because it is capitalism. Really good tomatoes are at their best for a few days only which makes them hell to transport. That's why modern tomatoes are bred for color ans size, but inside they are actually green with very hard core and very little natural sugar.

Why can I buy fresh fish and seafood, but not fresh tomatoes?

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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I have very similar memories as a child, and also find it very difficult to get good tomatoes. There's great looking tomatoes, but they don't smell or taste right, and they are either too hard or floury mealy things.

When I can get good tomatoes - my favourite thing is to have them on toast. Just slice the tomato, put it on some toast with butter, (or olive oil). Breakfast, lunch, dinner... it's simple but delicious.

Anna Bay, just north of Newcastle in NSW, Australia used to have fantastic tomatoes. It was renowned in the region for it's fantastic tomatoes. The area had a huge flood of Italian immigrants just post WW2, and they brought the tomatoes with them.

You'd see a few little road-side stalls on the road to Nelson Bay. The supermarkets took over and those little stalls disappeared. Then some opportunistic folks set up stalls using commercially grown tomatoes from others selling them as Anna Bay tomatoes, but they're not the same.

Unfortunately this tactic seems to be becoming more common. We found someone selling Peaches and Nectarines by the side of the road. They offered us a sample, it was amazing. We bought two boxes at a reasonable price, they were almost all awful. Had the same thing with Cherries.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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I have very similar memories as a child, and also find it very difficult to get good tomatoes. There's great looking tomatoes, but they don't smell or taste right, and they are either too hard or floury mealy things. When I can get good tomatoes - my favourite thing is to have them on toast. Just slice the tomato, put it on some toast with butter, (or olive oil). Breakfast, lunch, dinner... it's simple but delicious.…

I also grew up eating traditional tomatoes, my favourite thing to do is toasting a slice of sourdough bread then cutting a tomato in half and smashing the two halves on the bread (it's a similar process to making smashed avo on toast - it won't work with supermarket tomatoes because they're too hard and not juicy enough); I add olive oil, a pinch of salt and sometimes oregano.

If you have a Harris Farm Markets near you (I think there is one in Newcastle which is not too far from Anna Bay), look for the "heirloom tomatoes" - they are usually placed in a basket as a mix of different heirloom varieties and you can pick the ones you like, they are traditional tomatoes, not the ones you usually see in supermarkets.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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FTA: “ I will not make salsa because it is a sin to cook them”

Errr, umm, what? Yes, there is a category of cooked salsas, but 99% of the salsa I’ve ever had that didn’t come from a jar wasn’t cooked. I don’t recall ever getting a cooked tomato salsa in a Mexican, Mexi-Cali, or any other southwest restaurant.

Do Europeans really cook all their salsa???

Also, salsa is one of the 3 greatest destinies a delicious tomato could aspire to.

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