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Re: A network engineer in search of greener pastures

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Post by hadlock » Fri, Aug 02, 2024, 10:13 PM UTC

oooyay wrote: post #83

mlinhares wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's that but there's also this: > However, after heading over to Y Combinator to check out startup jobs, I was again frustrated by the findings. YC Jobs has a category for Engineering, but it's all software. There's a category for Operations, but it's all CEO, CTO, management positions. After searching and searching I was unable to find any listings for any network or cybersecurity jobs along the sysadmin/enginee…

Somewhat of a cynical take, but a lot of programs called DevOps and SRE are actually the same old ops people armed with some scripts and better BI tooling. It's rare to find definitional SWEs in these spaces and when you do you should cling to them. Even then, it's hard to resist the urge to revert back to ops because toil is somewhat addicting to companies.

From what I can tell, there's very little value in putting a SWE into an ops role, regardless if it's SRE. The open source (CNCF in particular) tooling is really good these days. Hiring an SWE for ops results in them building a bunch of custom tooling that needs to be thrown out when they leave.

Re: A network engineer in search of greener pastures

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Post by oooyay » Sat, Aug 03, 2024, 7:37 AM UTC

hadlock wrote: post #111

oooyay wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somewhat of a cynical take, but a lot of programs called DevOps and SRE are actually the same old ops people armed with some scripts and better BI tooling. It's rare to find definitional SWEs in these spaces and when you do you should cling to them. Even then, it's hard to resist the urge to revert back to ops because toil is somewhat addicting to companies.

From what I can tell, there's very little value in putting a SWE into an ops role, regardless if it's SRE. The open source (CNCF in particular) tooling is really good these days. Hiring an SWE for ops results in them building a bunch of custom tooling that needs to be thrown out when they leave.

I couldn't disagree more. The tooling that is Kubernetes was written by SWEs in ops roles and there's many more examples like that. Much of the CNCF donated tooling wouldn't exist without SWEs in ops roles.

Re: A network engineer in search of greener pastures

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Post by bdbdhxhdh » Sat, Aug 03, 2024, 7:48 PM UTC

I really wish you all the best. As many have already said, pure sys admin is a thing of the past for most companies

My advice is, ask you social network. Most engineers I know have friends who are engineers, too.

A simple recommendation is often enough to get a interview where you can then show your competency

Re: A network engineer in search of greener pastures

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Post by bzmrgonz » Sun, Aug 04, 2024, 7:17 AM UTC

I think I found OP's cv, if anyone is interested in seeing it https://read.cv/ncropp Also his WiLine employee card: https://www.signalhire.com/profiles/nicolas-cropp%27s-email/... (funny, last year he was listed as tier3 tech, maybe he fudged a little, or the company was unaware of his skills "shadow IT talent"..lol. Please be nice guys, could be any of us out there in the cold. Here are my suggestions OP,

Seeing how you are in Oregon, choices may be smaller, but, it all depends what you wanna do. A)get a job which affords you free time and energy (yes, a boring desk job where you twiddle your thumbs)...use the free time and your free time to make your skills crowd ready!!. A couple of certs and reach out to the colleges that the NSA is certifying/approving for cyber-training to either get certification from them or full fledge degree (some college should be able to gvie you credit for work experience). B)If you want to stay on the ground(non-cloud), find and old school fortune 1000 company in an eare you want to live and target them with your resume, but tailor your resume to their needs (look at their website, query their MX/DNS/etc, look at their website code etc. In my humble opinion, a package like this will keep you marketable for a few more decades Network/WEBSITE/MTA/pbx/hvac/timeclock/CCTV/BIOMETRIC-ACCESS-CONTROL/CYBER SECURITY/ASSET-INVENTORY control These are skills/technologies that 99 percent of fortune 1000 companies NEED. And I bet you very few have all these skillsets in one person, and it is doable at the server/platform management level, not the menial manual level of inventory control and badge scanning level.

As for access to the humans in the company, do what we've seen in the movies, you know, where the aggressive intrepid protagonist waits for the ceo or manager at the elevator, or follows him to the restaurant. I realize this is 2024 and you might end up in Jail, but I'm talking about the cyber version of that. I just did a lil web snooping and I got your resume link, I'm sure you can do the same and get linkedin of the hiring person, or the ceo if you prefer. Anyways, the idea is that youresearch the company, find their deficiencies, or maybe you spot a new project in their latest Q report and you see something you can help them with, so your letter goes, "hey yo chief, Here's my bag of skills, also in your latest Q report you mention you guys are expanding in shipping, I can setup a fleet monitoring system for you"

Best of luck buddy, go after the unlisted job vacancies now buddy, or better yet, fabricated your own opening.