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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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I am, admittedly, very glad that Biden stuck to his word in 2020 that he will be a single-term incumbent president for the last 4 years... I just wish the DNC kept their word on bolstering a more compelling candidate within that timeframe as well. They had 3 1/2 years to bolster the reputation of Kamala, and largely sidelined her after using her as a play for minority vote. Now they're (likely) running her in a remai…

It’s not good. It’s great.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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He's still competent enough to be president. He just doesn't have the chops to skewer a lunatic in a live TV debate, which is unfortunately very important, because if he can't, the lunatic might be the next president.

Think for a moment about what you are saying.

He is not able to hold his own in a debate. Yet you believe he's strong enough to lead the nation and decide when to go to war or not?

Being president should take a high degree of intelligence, integrity, and awareness. At all times.

If Biden's age has been causing mental issues, fine. That'll happen to everybody. But if it's bad enough to stop him from running, it should be bad enough to keep him out of office.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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He's still competent enough to be president. He just doesn't have the chops to skewer a lunatic in a live TV debate, which is unfortunately very important, because if he can't, the lunatic might be the next president.

Would you hire him for any role in your company in his current state?

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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This will be a much more relevant story on HN if it turns out that Elon Musk sent this rather than Biden. (At the time that I write this, the only place this news is sourced from is Twitter. Every news org is quoting Twitter and then adding their own gloss.)

https://apnews.com/live/biden-trump-election-campaign-update...

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-drops-2024-presidentia...

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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I actually think this loses Democrats the election. I don't know who the nominee is going to be but if it's Kamala I think they REALLY lose the election. People may be lukewarm on Biden but they despise Kamala for her shady history as a prosecutor.

The history as a prosecutor might be a significant advantage in a general election. The anti-police senitment has waned and she can position herself right at the center w.r.t. rule of law.

Anti-police sentiment has not waned among minorities and that is a demographic she would need to capture to win.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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post #90

I am, admittedly, very glad that Biden stuck to his word in 2020 that he will be a single-term incumbent president for the last 4 years... I just wish the DNC kept their word on bolstering a more compelling candidate within that timeframe as well. They had 3 1/2 years to bolster the reputation of Kamala, and largely sidelined her after using her as a play for minority vote. Now they're (likely) running her in a remai…

It’s not good. It’s great.

Alright, let's see if 3 months is enough time to bolster a new candidate. I hope, for our sake, you're right.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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I think it was pretty widely understood that he was going to have to be adamantly in the race until the exact moment he wasn’t in the race. The second he showed any public wavering it would have been over.

I can understand that perspective too, but a problem with that approach is that he might seem arrogant and out-of-touch - and I would have difficulties trusting a party who is so clear in their communication for so long, and then abruptly change direction completely

good thing he's not running for anything then

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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The problem isn't just his age, it's his decrepitude, both physical and mental. I know people in their 90s who are able to speak clearly at any hour of the day...

He’s far more physically fit than the Republican candidate. He can ride a bike. The Republican candidate also struggles to speak coherently. At least now we’ll likely not have both major party candidates be too old for office.

I don’t really care if my president can ride a bike, I care if he can think and speak cogently. Biden cannot.

I’m not comparing him to Trump btw. Just explaining why I’m perfectly happy that the dems are replacing Biden with someone else.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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"Donald Trump is going to win. And I'm OK with that." - Jared Golden, Democratic House Representative of Maine

I really hoped it wouldn't be so, but anyone that's ever seen Kamala speak will find she is about as compelling as Joe Biden on a bad day. I believe this means China and Russia can prevail in the short term, unless he actually boosts Taiwan's defence meaningfully, which I doubt he will after the Ukraine/Israel/Taiwan aid holdup fiasco.

It is what it is. I wish the nominee was Gretchen Whitmer with anyone but Kamala. I wish Biden had not run for reelection. I wish he hadn't endorsed Kamala. I wish the Democrats and Obama had backed Sanders or Biden in 2016 when they were fit to serve. I wish Trump moderated himself after the attempt on his life instead of business as usual a week later.

I hope I'm wrong about everything observably bad about Trump's first term and his decline since, because with another trifecta of loyalists, he's probably getting much more done this time.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Dannnnnng. I think it's definitely for the best (probably never should've come to this, reminds me of RBG). And that said I really, really liked his presidency, but, he is undeniably really old.

The problem isn't just his age, it's his decrepitude, both physical and mental. I know people in their 90s who are able to speak clearly at any hour of the day...

Speaking clearly has nothing to do with mental fortitude. Tons of things can affect the fluency of speech. We really need to move past the days where we judge people's intelligence and competence based on how well the connections of their brain are able to influence the movement of the vocal cords and the tongue the lips and the jaw.
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